958 GTS, DIY Serviceability.
#1
958 GTS, DIY Serviceability.
Hey all,
New guy here. I'm currently in the process of potentially purchasing a 90k mile 2013 GTS.
Unfortunately, the vehicle was a 9/12 delivery and no longer is covered by Porsche's transfer case warranty.
I do all of my own work on my vehicles, and this would hopefully be no exception. I've done everything from transmission services, to timing belts and camshaft removal. I've pretty much only owned/worked on Audis in the past.
With the exception of the price of parts, would a transfer case or the like be doable without a specialist shop? I have all the tools, Alldata etc. I've also got access to a lift and the time.
Thanks.
New guy here. I'm currently in the process of potentially purchasing a 90k mile 2013 GTS.
Unfortunately, the vehicle was a 9/12 delivery and no longer is covered by Porsche's transfer case warranty.
I do all of my own work on my vehicles, and this would hopefully be no exception. I've done everything from transmission services, to timing belts and camshaft removal. I've pretty much only owned/worked on Audis in the past.
With the exception of the price of parts, would a transfer case or the like be doable without a specialist shop? I have all the tools, Alldata etc. I've also got access to a lift and the time.
Thanks.
#3
Now for programming, I know the Bilstein air shocks will need to be programmed. How about for instance, a transfer case?
Could programming also be a DIY thing with software?
Thanks for you reply!
#4
Specifics regarding DIY work on transfercase coding. There is a parameter regarding transfer case particulate wear that should be reset when performing a fluid flush. Icarscan can allegedly do it. POCOM will read it but will not reset/code it in my experience.
Regarding suspension, if it's the air system, most work can be performed without coding or calibration. If the bags are new/empty, they need to be partially filled manually before connecting airlines to the vehicle. No matter how full the nitrogen tank, in my experience it will not cycle the valvebody or compressor to fill.
I come from a long VAG background and 958's drip with VAG design/parts sharing. You'll be fine. Good luck and enjoy!
Regarding suspension, if it's the air system, most work can be performed without coding or calibration. If the bags are new/empty, they need to be partially filled manually before connecting airlines to the vehicle. No matter how full the nitrogen tank, in my experience it will not cycle the valvebody or compressor to fill.
I come from a long VAG background and 958's drip with VAG design/parts sharing. You'll be fine. Good luck and enjoy!
#5
Racer
New Transfers case need to be coded in, There are parameters on a sticker on top of the case that need to be inputted via PIWIS. Can confirm that the TC fluid change reset can be done with the foxwell NT530.
#6
Easier to service than BMW
The only difficult or annoying thing is removing the undercarriage covers!
Changing Transfer Case fluid, Front/Rear Differential fluids, Engine oil, and Brake fluid are rather easy. Changing the Ignition coils, spark plugs, and air filter are easy also if you buy tools designed for "tight spaces". I highly recommend buying 3/8 18" drive breaker bar. Cleaning the Throttle Body is easy.
I let the dealer change the coolant fluid during their special deal about $300. I will let the dealer change the transmission fluid also when nearing 150-kmiles. Mine is about 128-kmiles now.
Changing Transfer Case fluid, Front/Rear Differential fluids, Engine oil, and Brake fluid are rather easy. Changing the Ignition coils, spark plugs, and air filter are easy also if you buy tools designed for "tight spaces". I highly recommend buying 3/8 18" drive breaker bar. Cleaning the Throttle Body is easy.
I let the dealer change the coolant fluid during their special deal about $300. I will let the dealer change the transmission fluid also when nearing 150-kmiles. Mine is about 128-kmiles now.
#7
Intermediate
I have a 2011 Turbo with 115k and just about every option (PTV, PDCC, etc). Ive done brakes, rear shocks, all control arms, water pump and coolant pipes and of course most fluids at least once. I have the Foxwell and it's worked for everything so far. Honestly one of the most DYI friendly modern cars I've worked on. Yes, it's more complicated than an old Chevy but it's engineered well enough that once you figure out what needs to be done, you can do it.
Its also common enough that you can usually find the answer here or other places. Parts are readily available either Porsche or various levels of aftermarket quality.
I have a 2003 Acura CL Type S 6 speed manual that is 1 of 2700 made (1 of 800 with navigation) that is a total pain to work on compared to the Cayenne. Yeah it's a Honda, but it's a rare bird that I can't find info or parts for.
Its also common enough that you can usually find the answer here or other places. Parts are readily available either Porsche or various levels of aftermarket quality.
I have a 2003 Acura CL Type S 6 speed manual that is 1 of 2700 made (1 of 800 with navigation) that is a total pain to work on compared to the Cayenne. Yeah it's a Honda, but it's a rare bird that I can't find info or parts for.
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#8
Rennlist Member
I have a 2013 GTS and also do all my own work I rebuilt the original transfer case a few years ago.
958 GTS Transfer Case rebuild - wish me luck - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
It was starting to act up as well after 60 or so!? so I got a new case put in last month. I would have rebuilt it myself again but I was able to take advantage of the extended warranty.
958 GTS Transfer Case rebuild - wish me luck - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
It was starting to act up as well after 60 or so!? so I got a new case put in last month. I would have rebuilt it myself again but I was able to take advantage of the extended warranty.
#9
Rennlist Member
I've done a fair amount of work on my 2016 GTS and have typically been impressed how thoughtfully put together it is, and how easy it is to work on. Case in point I replaced the rear hatch struts last month and it was shockingly simple.
I've worked on all types of cars over the years, and the Germans (BMW, Porsche) have always been by far and away the easiest to work on. Don't get me started on the Japanese...
I've worked on all types of cars over the years, and the Germans (BMW, Porsche) have always been by far and away the easiest to work on. Don't get me started on the Japanese...
#10
Thanks all for the replies!
Hopefully going to be picking the car up tomorrow, if all goes well. Going to get a PPI beforehand. Who knew some Porsche dealers don't do those anymore?
Hopefully going to be picking the car up tomorrow, if all goes well. Going to get a PPI beforehand. Who knew some Porsche dealers don't do those anymore?
#12
Good to know, I was surprised when the GM said "thanks but no thanks."
So last question.
The vehicle was sold on 11/27/2012, and was manufactured on 10/01/2012 (I was incorrect about the "delivery date" in my original post). Would I still be eligible for the transfer case warranty for the next month? I understand delivery date as being when the vehicle was sold, but I'm also not sure because the spec almost certainly was custom ordered.
So last question.
The vehicle was sold on 11/27/2012, and was manufactured on 10/01/2012 (I was incorrect about the "delivery date" in my original post). Would I still be eligible for the transfer case warranty for the next month? I understand delivery date as being when the vehicle was sold, but I'm also not sure because the spec almost certainly was custom ordered.
Last edited by XAM; 09-30-2022 at 10:40 PM.
#15
Racer
So far I've changed a door actuator, the alarm siren, auto rear hatch struts change, transfer case oil change and engine oil change. Door actuator was a pain. The all data website, and my foxwell nt530 has been very useful.