Seat Ventilation and heat stopped working
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Once again, my seat ventilation and heat is out on the driver's side. Happened back in 2017 and Dealer fixed with a new seat frame. Wondering how long that CPO warranty fix is covered? Also wonder if anyone has a DIY fix for it.
Push the button and it illuminates for about a second then goes out. Driver's side only. Passenger side stays on. That negates ambient air temp override feature.
Push the button and it illuminates for about a second then goes out. Driver's side only. Passenger side stays on. That negates ambient air temp override feature.
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BTW - when getting out of a 987 Cayman that one just ran an iCarScan on (at a used car dealers), and you have to pull yourself out on a slippery mat on the showroom floor, when done doing these gymnastics - make sure you check that your cell phone is in your pocket before leaving (duh.) This is going to end up being another 3 hour round trip on Monday morning (WMD located it, not only at the dealership, but in the part of the showroom that has the car I was looking at..)
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Unfortunately - the CPO warranty fix ends with the CPO.. one of those little things Porsche likes to do. I've never seen a DIY for this - it seems very rare, so we're hoping as you track it down you're taking lots of pics and notes..![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'd love to watch the control unit for the heat/vent with an iCarScan.. look at the real time output and see what's going on. I wonder if there might be a stored code?
BTW - when getting out of a 987 Cayman that one just ran an iCarScan on (at a used car dealers), and you have to pull yourself out on a slippery mat on the showroom floor, when done doing these gymnastics - make sure you check that your cell phone is in your pocket before leaving (duh.) This is going to end up being another 3 hour round trip on Monday morning (WMD located it, not only at the dealership, but in the part of the showroom that has the car I was looking at..)
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I'd love to watch the control unit for the heat/vent with an iCarScan.. look at the real time output and see what's going on. I wonder if there might be a stored code?
BTW - when getting out of a 987 Cayman that one just ran an iCarScan on (at a used car dealers), and you have to pull yourself out on a slippery mat on the showroom floor, when done doing these gymnastics - make sure you check that your cell phone is in your pocket before leaving (duh.) This is going to end up being another 3 hour round trip on Monday morning (WMD located it, not only at the dealership, but in the part of the showroom that has the car I was looking at..)
DOn, if I have one day left on CPO, they fix something on the car. Two days later that fix breaks again. Is there no recourse? Seems like there should be like a 12 month warranty, or something on fixed parts.
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Mebbe I'll test drive the Cayman while I'm there. I made the mistake yesterday in taking an old (even older than me) friend along to keep him amused. I should have remembered he has the attention span of my granddaughter who is 5 months old. And when he gets bored in this sort of situation he lets everyone know he's bored. So I really didn't get to see what I wanted to, and didn't want to stick around for them to get the Cayman out of the middle of the showroom so I could test drive it. Maybe tomorrow...
In a reasonable world that would be true - but we're talking Porsche world. Somewhere I saw a document on CPO explaining how it worked - but yeah - if it was fixed yesterday and CPO ended today, and the fixed item fails tomorrow, guess whose problem that now is? Can't hurt to bitch at Porsche Cars North America, but doubt if they'll do much.
In a reasonable world that would be true - but we're talking Porsche world. Somewhere I saw a document on CPO explaining how it worked - but yeah - if it was fixed yesterday and CPO ended today, and the fixed item fails tomorrow, guess whose problem that now is? Can't hurt to bitch at Porsche Cars North America, but doubt if they'll do much.
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1. Subscribe to ALLDataDIY - and see if they have a writeup on replacing the sensor.
2. Look in a Porsche parts listing. There is a free version of the 958 parts catalog in PDF format available from Porsche. I find that useful to look things like this up.
My WAG - the sensor costs around $40-50 from Porsche, $5 from Volkswagen and $3 aftermarket. The rest is labor. Sounds about right - $500 labor.
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I'll keep you guys posted. Gonna look into it this week as I have a few days off.
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what was notable here is they replaced the whole seat frame
pretty sure my seat ventilation is out in my drivers side, my passenger side seems super weak?
the seat heaters work
my CD is under CPO until JAN 2020, so I’ll get this sorted soon.
I am curious what they do here. I understand whatever they do sounds like warranty might be only good until the end of my CPO
this ride is new for me but sounds like I’m in for a bit of a ride.
when they replace parts under CPO, can I still see the old ones? I’ll take some pictures.
pretty sure my seat ventilation is out in my drivers side, my passenger side seems super weak?
the seat heaters work
my CD is under CPO until JAN 2020, so I’ll get this sorted soon.
I am curious what they do here. I understand whatever they do sounds like warranty might be only good until the end of my CPO
this ride is new for me but sounds like I’m in for a bit of a ride.
when they replace parts under CPO, can I still see the old ones? I’ll take some pictures.
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Mebbe I'll test drive the Cayman while I'm there. I made the mistake yesterday in taking an old (even older than me) friend along to keep him amused. I should have remembered he has the attention span of my granddaughter who is 5 months old. And when he gets bored in this sort of situation he lets everyone know he's bored. So I really didn't get to see what I wanted to, and didn't want to stick around for them to get the Cayman out of the middle of the showroom so I could test drive it. Maybe tomorrow...
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@RAudi Driver did you learn anything? Eventually I’ll end up getting to this one, but if Don’s suspicion is correct and the sensor really is cheap and the fix is <1 day to do it’ll rise quickly through the priority list with winter coming...
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Removing and installing suction fan for seat surface
Component information
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Installation position of suction fan for seat surface
Preliminary work
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Expansion rivet
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Unplugging connector for suction fan![](http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldatadiy/DIY~V101723165~C53695~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/191164489/206679571/206679663/206679665/34853741/34866522/56290491/106104247/108487300/212125294/175865819)
Removing suction fan
Installing suction fan for seat surface
Information
Replace expansion rivets and fixing clips during installation and do not re-use them.
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Expansion rivet
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Component information
Installation position of suction fan for seat surface
Preliminary work
- Remove padding for front seat.
- Remove expansion rivet -1- .
Expansion rivet
- Unplug electric plug connection -arrows- for suction fan.
Unplugging connector for suction fan
- Unclip the suction fan together with the bracket and remove it by pulling it upwards.
Removing suction fan
Installing suction fan for seat surface
Information
Replace expansion rivets and fixing clips during installation and do not re-use them.
- Position suction fan together with the bracket on the seat surface.
- Clip in the bracket and secure the suction fan on the seat surface with an expansion rivet -1- .
Expansion rivet
- Plug in electric plug connection -arrows- for suction fan.
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@RAudi Driver did you learn anything? Eventually I’ll end up getting to this one, but if Don’s suspicion is correct and the sensor really is cheap and the fix is <1 day to do it’ll rise quickly through the priority list with winter coming...
Been stuck with work so have not had a chance to dig into the issue. Hopefully next week.
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Removing and installing suction fan for seat surface
Component information
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Installation position of suction fan for seat surface
Preliminary work
![](http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldatadiy/DIY~V101723165~C53695~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/191164489/206679571/206679663/206679665/34853741/34866522/56290491/106104247/108487300/212125294/175867150)
Expansion rivet
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Unplugging connector for suction fan![](http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldatadiy/DIY~V101723165~C53695~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/191164489/206679571/206679663/206679665/34853741/34866522/56290491/106104247/108487300/212125294/175865819)
Removing suction fan
Installing suction fan for seat surface
Information
Replace expansion rivets and fixing clips during installation and do not re-use them.
![](http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldatadiy/DIY~V101723165~C53695~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/191164489/206679571/206679663/206679665/34853741/34866522/56290491/106104247/108487300/212125294/175867150)
Expansion rivet
![](http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldatadiy/DIY~V101723165~C53695~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/191164489/206679571/206679663/206679665/34853741/34866522/56290491/106104247/108487300/212125294/176061919)
Component information
Installation position of suction fan for seat surface
Preliminary work
- Remove padding for front seat.
- Remove expansion rivet -1- .
Expansion rivet
- Unplug electric plug connection -arrows- for suction fan.
Unplugging connector for suction fan
- Unclip the suction fan together with the bracket and remove it by pulling it upwards.
Removing suction fan
Installing suction fan for seat surface
Information
Replace expansion rivets and fixing clips during installation and do not re-use them.
- Position suction fan together with the bracket on the seat surface.
- Clip in the bracket and secure the suction fan on the seat surface with an expansion rivet -1- .
Expansion rivet
- Plug in electric plug connection -arrows- for suction fan.
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I am not sure AllData is the answer for a real DIY manual, there must be something better.
I only subscribed for one year and honesty was not impressed.