lswen

Hi, everybody. I am now a Lexus GX owner. After a surprise reading in Lexus dealership about Porsche's reliability is on par with Lexus. I decided to try Porsche. I never have Porsche before, but I can engjoy the drive after I tested Macan. But for all practical reasons, I think that I should go for a Caynene. Now, the question is whether I should jump to a 2019 or 2018 base. I can feel the little more power of 2019, but 2018 base in SPORT mode truly provides enough power for me. I know after many online reading that 2019 is a new generation, but most articles are about how 2019 is better than the previous generation. But, my experience tells me that it is not always newer is better. So, I hope to get some insights from you whether 2019 is truly better than the previous generation.

In my particular case, my local deal has a 2018 base loner Cayenne with fancy leather all interior and gadgets of original MRSP at $83000 now at 7500 mile. He would let it go at 30% off with original + CPO warranty to five years from now. the price is around $59000. In compassion, a modest 2019 base with 5% off MRSP is about $10000 more about $69000-$70000. thanks.

deilenberger

I'd suggest reading the forum dedicated to the new models. It's not all cherries and apples with the new one... there are some teething issues going on. Good part about the final year 958 - most of the bugs were stomped out by then (and the few that weren't at least are known and have ways to address them.)

Spend a bit of time at https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-9y0-2019-247/ - it should answer the question for you.

lswen

Many thanks for the reply. It is true that I am little worry about 2019 as a first year car. The salesman tried to convince me that one-year old loaner car normally will not have 30% discount if 2019 is not a new model. To me, new 2019 base is 10k-12k more, which I am okey with. I think that I will be happy to choose either 2018 or 2019. So, I come here to get some advices from real users of Cayenne.

911-TOUR

I just bought a 2018 Base Platinum - CPO car with 20K on the ODO. Very happy with it. Only thing I would prefer is the air suspension and the 20s instead of 21s.

I liked the 2019 base loaner I had when my 911 was in for its 1 year service as well. Price was much better on the CPO car however.

Can't go wrong with either.

cheers!

rileyracing1

I am a huge Porsche fan but a Cayenne is not in Lexus territory when it comes to reliability . They are much more fun to drive but reliability compared to a Lexus while good but still not that good. A Cayenne is more like a hot girl friend a little more costly in the long run but much more fun to drive !!

Galion

2019 Base has a peppy engine, 2018 is slow,

Dan87951

Bwwwwhahahahahahahahahahaha!

I don't know who's hand Porsche greased to get that reliability rating, but from my personal experience that couldn't be further from the truth. We also own a Lexus GS350 that has needed absolutely nothing so far (85k miles) but gas and oil, now that's reliability.

I can't wait to show my wife this when she gets home, she will probably get a good laugh out of it considering what we have been through with our Cayenne.

MJG911

well, our first cayenne had 47500 miles on it, and our second is at 70000 with no issues on either.

I would go for the 18. You can't beat a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty and that discount.

lswen

All Lexus dealers like to show the reliability rank. I only recently read it closely during a wait for oil change. I am very surprised to find that Porsche is ranked 2 after Lexus, while Toyota is 3rd. I even went to the desk of my salesperson who sold me two Lexus, and he confirmed that Porsche is truly ranked high in recent years. In fact, I have a long wish to buy a Germany car, as I learned to drive manual transmission car twenty years's ago in my uncle's VW sedan. That sedan left me a strong and stiff masculine feeling that I never forget. But a long-live Ford Taurus and busy life drove me out of car market for a very very long time. When I went to back the car-market 10 years ago, I heard so so many complaints from friends about BMW and BENZ. Still, I tested drive BMW 3 and audi a4, a6 sedans, there is no stiff German feeling. I think that they drove softer than my ford while more like Japaneses car. so I gave up, I went to Lexus for reliability.

But test drive of Porsche is total different story. Macan and Cayenne immediately reminded me the stiff and precise German car feeling. I just regretted that i did not test them many many years earlier. I am just happy to find that the old German feeling car still exist.

lswen

Besides, thank everybody's input. I think the worry about the reliability of the first year car is true after reading your post. so I saved the money and happily go with the 2018 loaner car. The car's all leather Saddle Brown configuration looks quite special. Below is what I got:


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$83,810.00
Mahogany Metallic
Leather Interior in Black/Saddle Brown

BASE - Cayenne Platinum Edition
1D6 - Trailer hitch without tow ball
2ZH - Heated Multifunction Steering Wheel
3FE - Electric Slide/Tilt Moonroof
3S5 - Roof Rails in Black
4D3 - Seat Ventilation (Front)
4L6 - Auto-Dimming Interior Mirror
5J2 - Roof spoiler separation edge painted
6GB - Wheel Arch Extensions in Black with Side Door Protection Molding
6XT - Auto-Dimming Side Mirrors
7X8 - ParkAssist (Front and Rear) with Reversing Camera
7Y7 - Lane Departure Warning (LDW) with Lane Change Assist (LCA)
9AH - 4-zone Climate Control
C5D - 20" RS Spyder Design Wheels in Platinum Satin (9.5" rim width)
G1G - 8-speed Tiptronic S
MI - Leather Interior in Black/Saddle Brown
PE5 - Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
PJX - Premium Package Plus
Y8 - Mahogany Metallic

Slam08

Congrats!

Nicely optioned

Welcome to the club.

drdantheman1

+1 congrats on the cayenne! The 300hp vr6 is nothing to sneeze at, we had a blast taking ours on sebring for the parade laps. The only real let down is the gearbox spacing in the 8 speed which holds it back I think.

lswen

lswen

Chaos

+2, I drive a Lexus GS350 (fifth Lexus) and a base Cayenne (ninth Porsche) Lexus are ten times more reliable.