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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 02:39 AM
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One of my keyless entry fobs is missing and I'd like to buy another one for my 2011 958 turbo

I haven't called the dealer, I'm sure they'll charge an ungodly amount. I've read you can buy used ones but the Part number and FCC ID have to match. I've found my Part number and FCC ID and found matching fobs ready to program on ebay (not used, they've never been programmed) for $99.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-PORSCHE-...lZZ5Rp&vxp=mtr

Anyone know what's required to program these? They say dealer or locksmith can program them. Any locksmith? I've programmed toyota keys before, that required a series of button presses inside the car, is programming Porsche fobs anything like that?
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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Anyone know what's required to program these? They say dealer or locksmith can program them. Any locksmith? I've programmed toyota keys before, that required a series of button presses inside the car, is programming Porsche fobs anything like that?
From what I understand it's the car that needs to be programmed to recognize the keys. That requires the Porsche factory PIWIS system. Dealers have it, of course, and so do some independents. There's no in-vehicle programming process, unfortunately.

Upside is I'd think the dealer should also be able to un-program the missing key from the vehicle. Best to not leave something able to access the car if you know it's gone.
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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From what I've heard (here and on a few other forums) - to program a "new" key you must have all the keys you intend to use on the vehicle present. The system is then basically erased (all keys removed) and the keys you want to use are added back to it.

The iCarScan has a key programming function listed on one of the general module offerings, and from memory has some capability under the Porsche 958 Cayenne specific programming. I have NOT tried using it. If anyone wants to submit your vehicle as a test - and live somewhere that you can get it to NJ - I'm willing to give it a try. Any failures is not my liability..
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Old Oct 4, 2017 | 09:30 PM
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sounds unnecessarily difficult to make dealers more money
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Old Oct 4, 2017 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by boxsternewbie
sounds unnecessarily difficult to make dealers more money
How would you engineer a different perhaps simpler solution, while retaining the control Porsche has on selling replacement keys?

It might make the dealer money - but I'm fairly sure there are other items they might be doing instead that would make them equal or more money - especially repair work involving expensive Porsche parts.
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Just did this and the key was $280.00 and programing $90.00 I get very good pricing. Yes they need old and new keys...If youu lose your only key your car is down a week.
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We had this done several months back and it cost about $525.

The dealers parts guy told me he has several per week for various Porsches and he did not know any other way of getting them done other than the dealership.

At the above price multiplied across the global dealership network Porsche has to make a small fortune in a year for just lost keys, the margins must be astronomical.
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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 11:41 PM
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Just did this and the key was $280.00 and programing $90.00 I get very good pricing. Yes they need old and new keys...If youu lose your only key your car is down a week.
if i bought my own key in to be programmed do you think they'd charge $90?

We use to have many porsche dealerships. But someone came in and bought up the "right" to sell Porsche. Now we're down to only one dealership within 100 miles for a city of 6 million people. Doesn't make sense, I mean I know Porsche wants to be exclusive but having only one dealership makes it impossible to get a porsche or service.
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Last week, I paid 300 euros ($360) to have a new key cut and programmed. It took 2 days from start to finish.
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Anyone have update to this?
Looking to add another key to the car. Not looking to spend hundreds at the dealer

Local locksmith some say they can unlock a used OEM key, some say only new key. Prices vary from 150-550
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Originally Posted by driftmotion
Local locksmith some say they can unlock a used OEM key, some say only new key. Prices vary from 150-550
I bought a supposedly 'wiped clean, ready to program' key off ebay, and the dealer was unable to get it to work with the car - said it was still tied to a VIN.

If your local guy can make it work, I'm sure there are several of us who would love to hear!
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Originally Posted by Eskimo1
I bought a supposedly 'wiped clean, ready to program' key off ebay, and the dealer was unable to get it to work with the car - said it was still tied to a VIN.

If your local guy can make it work, I'm sure there are several of us who would love to hear!
from what I understand, dealer is only allowed to program brand new keys
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Originally Posted by driftmotion
from what I understand, dealer is only allowed to program brand new keys
Third party dealer where I bought my 958 tried to do the aftermarket key programming. To say it was a ****show is an understatement. They tried to program a chinese-aftermarket key fob and ended up bricking the front body control unit computer. They paid to have it replaced, and then tried to reprogram the key again. Ended up with the wrong body control unit computer, apparently, and replaced it again. Tried with the chinese aftermarket key again, and ended up bricking the original factory key fob, and still the aftermarket fob wouldn't program.

Porsche Dealer told me (after I got fed up and had new keys done and billed the 3p dealer) that the aftermarket fob would never program, because all codes that get programmed into key fobs are originated and distributed by HQ in Germany. Final cost was just under $200 CDN per key. 3P Dealer was on the hook for almost two grand after trying to save $100.
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