Any Cayenne owners former or current 911 owners?
03-14-2016, 04:18 PM
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Any Cayenne owners former or current 911 owners?
I asked this question in the 997 forum but got a very limited response. I figured I might get a better response if I posted the same question over here. Rather than reposting everything, I'll link to the original post.
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-or-turbo.html
TL;DR- Current 911 owner seeking thoughts and opinions on switching to a Cayenne GTS
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-or-turbo.html
TL;DR- Current 911 owner seeking thoughts and opinions on switching to a Cayenne GTS
03-14-2016, 04:40 PM
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Yep. You're gonna like it. I just sold my '85 Hot Rod 911 after buying a Cayenne GTS. Be warned thoough, even with a 6-speed, the Cayenne is no replacement for the raw mechanical feel of a mid-eighties 911. But the handling is remarkable, and sure footed. Feels like a 4-wheel drive 928 S4. I had no real intention of selling the 911, but the market is hot, and I got absolute TOP dollar. She will be missed. Good luck.
03-14-2016, 04:40 PM
#3
What exactly do you want to know?
The Cayenne feels heavy, detached and is more expensive to maintain compared to a 911, but it's definitely the sweetest SUV out there in terms of handling and build quality. My Cayenne Turbo (w/ PDCC) handles better in the corners than my 3-series BMW.
As the only fun thing you can really do with a Cayenne is to go fast, Turbo is what you want
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The Cayenne feels heavy, detached and is more expensive to maintain compared to a 911, but it's definitely the sweetest SUV out there in terms of handling and build quality. My Cayenne Turbo (w/ PDCC) handles better in the corners than my 3-series BMW.
As the only fun thing you can really do with a Cayenne is to go fast, Turbo is what you want
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03-14-2016, 04:41 PM
#4
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+1,
I need to go to a bigger car and need to give up the Carrera. Also a few issues are forcing this decision.
I'm primarily looking for handling and traction info, not speed as much. So.... my choices are 09/10 GTS vs 11 and up V6/V8
Any compare and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I need to go to a bigger car and need to give up the Carrera. Also a few issues are forcing this decision.
I'm primarily looking for handling and traction info, not speed as much. So.... my choices are 09/10 GTS vs 11 and up V6/V8
Any compare and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
03-14-2016, 04:48 PM
#5
+1,
I need to go to a bigger car and need to give up the Carrera. Also a few issues are forcing this decision.
I'm primarily looking for handling and traction info, not speed as much. So.... my choices are 09/10 GTS vs 11 and up V6/V8
Any compare and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I need to go to a bigger car and need to give up the Carrera. Also a few issues are forcing this decision.
I'm primarily looking for handling and traction info, not speed as much. So.... my choices are 09/10 GTS vs 11 and up V6/V8
Any compare and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
03-14-2016, 04:57 PM
#6
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Yep read about PDCC but having hard time finding just the right combo that actually has it.
If i had to chose between 957 GTS and 958 Cayenne/Cayenne S, what handles better?
If i had to chose between 957 GTS and 958 Cayenne/Cayenne S, what handles better?
03-14-2016, 05:27 PM
#7
What exactly do you want to know?
The Cayenne feels heavy, detached and is more expensive to maintain compared to a 911, but it's definitely the sweetest SUV out there in terms of handling and build quality. My Cayenne Turbo (w/ PDCC) handles better in the corners than my 3-series BMW.
As the only fun thing you can really do with a Cayenne is to go fast, Turbo is what you want.
The Cayenne feels heavy, detached and is more expensive to maintain compared to a 911, but it's definitely the sweetest SUV out there in terms of handling and build quality. My Cayenne Turbo (w/ PDCC) handles better in the corners than my 3-series BMW.
As the only fun thing you can really do with a Cayenne is to go fast, Turbo is what you want
.Your feedback is appreciated. I did not think (nor would I have imagined) the maintenance on the Cayenne is more expensive, so that's a point well taken, and I also appreciate your turbo vs. GTS opinion.
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03-14-2016, 05:38 PM
#8
I am just looking for ownership experiences, coming from the perspective of those that have owned both vehicles. These aren't exactly cars that get cross-shopped, so it isn't like I can find reviews comparing the two online. I don't expect that the Cayenne will be a fun to drive as my 911. One is a sports car (some say the best sports car ever built) and the other is an SUV. But I'm a current 911 owner who has some changing situations that may require me to give up the dream car, so I'm contemplating replacing it with something more practical and "almost" as fun.
Your feedback is appreciated. I did not think (nor would I have imagined) the maintenance on the Cayenne is more expensive, so that's a point well taken, and I also appreciate your turbo vs. GTS opinion.
Your feedback is appreciated. I did not think (nor would I have imagined) the maintenance on the Cayenne is more expensive, so that's a point well taken, and I also appreciate your turbo vs. GTS opinion.
Here is a fun comparison of your car (997.2) vs a Cayenne Turbo on track
03-14-2016, 06:51 PM
#9
Three Wheelin'
My 11 CTT is just as much fun to drive as my 997TT, just different. I would not buy a 957 or earlier Cayenne (JMO). The 958 is a much better platform. Mine has PDCC, sport, PTV, 21`wheels and all the goodies. I think its GREAT!
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03-14-2016, 07:11 PM
#10
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vbb,
On the other 997 forum, your likely getting opinions & comments that are a closer in alignment to your direct situation, since you already own the 997,... and are thinking of selling it, to replace with a Cayenne.
Whereas here,... you'll find that many of us also have 911's (& keep BOTH of them),... but not all of us have those 911's for the same reason you owned & driven your 997.
In my case I have a 1991 964 Turbo (avatar). I also own & daily drive a 2012 CTT (& same as 4ocious, mine also has PDCC/PTV, 21's, Sport, etc).
If you could keep both, that would be the best of all worlds.
If I could only own just one of them, would I eliminate the CTT? yes. I would keep the 964T. But it is NOT for many of the reasons you are now considering a SUV to replace your 911. Our 964T has been thru all growth years of our kids (ages 7/8 -up-to- 20), so the memories are strong, plus all the current continued driving experiences,... would have us keeping the 964T.
Do I love the CTT? absolutely. It is an amazing SUV that I am autocrossing & having a blast with. In many cases it frees my mind to the daily hammering I can put on a Porsche again. It satisfies my obsession.
Conversely since the 964T has risen in collectability & value, that I now reserve those hard drives only when I'm with the PCA Club, and on specific tours.
So in the end, if you MUST sell your 911 (because of all the family reasons you listed on the 997 thread),... then absolutely get a Cayenne,... GTS or TT (as long as either has PDCC). You will not be disappointed. You will continue to have TONS of fun.
Best of luck with your endeavors.
=Steve
On the other 997 forum, your likely getting opinions & comments that are a closer in alignment to your direct situation, since you already own the 997,... and are thinking of selling it, to replace with a Cayenne.
Whereas here,... you'll find that many of us also have 911's (& keep BOTH of them),... but not all of us have those 911's for the same reason you owned & driven your 997.
In my case I have a 1991 964 Turbo (avatar). I also own & daily drive a 2012 CTT (& same as 4ocious, mine also has PDCC/PTV, 21's, Sport, etc).
If you could keep both, that would be the best of all worlds.
If I could only own just one of them, would I eliminate the CTT? yes. I would keep the 964T. But it is NOT for many of the reasons you are now considering a SUV to replace your 911. Our 964T has been thru all growth years of our kids (ages 7/8 -up-to- 20), so the memories are strong, plus all the current continued driving experiences,... would have us keeping the 964T.
Do I love the CTT? absolutely. It is an amazing SUV that I am autocrossing & having a blast with. In many cases it frees my mind to the daily hammering I can put on a Porsche again. It satisfies my obsession.
Conversely since the 964T has risen in collectability & value, that I now reserve those hard drives only when I'm with the PCA Club, and on specific tours.
So in the end, if you MUST sell your 911 (because of all the family reasons you listed on the 997 thread),... then absolutely get a Cayenne,... GTS or TT (as long as either has PDCC). You will not be disappointed. You will continue to have TONS of fun.
Best of luck with your endeavors.
=Steve
03-14-2016, 08:01 PM
#11
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vbb,
I have owned an 86, a 94, and currently own a 06 911 (997) I recently purchased an 09 Cayenne GTS. The 997 was my daily driver from 08, until 11. My commute was short and I was at a point in my life that I really didn't need to lug children around so it worked well for me. I leased a BMW 550 through the business after that and grew tired of its lack of utility. Today the 09 GTS is my daily driver and the 06 C2 Cab sits in the garage most of the time. The cayenne has been on several road trips to local ski areas as well as been on a few back roads as I also enjoy a little fly fishing when I have the chance. For me, the Cayenne has been an acceptable substitute. I don't drive the 997 very hard these days and frankly, the visceral feeling that you get from the older 911's is pretty much gone in the 997. The Cayenne is very comfortable, and in sport mode it (at the risk of getting flamed) gets after it. It's not a 911. but it has a lot of the attributes that make Porsche so much fun to own and drive. JMHO
I have owned an 86, a 94, and currently own a 06 911 (997) I recently purchased an 09 Cayenne GTS. The 997 was my daily driver from 08, until 11. My commute was short and I was at a point in my life that I really didn't need to lug children around so it worked well for me. I leased a BMW 550 through the business after that and grew tired of its lack of utility. Today the 09 GTS is my daily driver and the 06 C2 Cab sits in the garage most of the time. The cayenne has been on several road trips to local ski areas as well as been on a few back roads as I also enjoy a little fly fishing when I have the chance. For me, the Cayenne has been an acceptable substitute. I don't drive the 997 very hard these days and frankly, the visceral feeling that you get from the older 911's is pretty much gone in the 997. The Cayenne is very comfortable, and in sport mode it (at the risk of getting flamed) gets after it. It's not a 911. but it has a lot of the attributes that make Porsche so much fun to own and drive. JMHO
03-14-2016, 09:37 PM
#13
vbb,
On the other 997 forum, your likely getting opinions & comments that are a closer in alignment to your direct situation, since you already own the 997,... and are thinking of selling it, to replace with a Cayenne.
Whereas here,... you'll find that many of us also have 911's (& keep BOTH of them),... but not all of us have those 911's for the same reason you owned & driven your 997.
In my case I have a 1991 964 Turbo (avatar). I also own & daily drive a 2012 CTT (& same as 4ocious, mine also has PDCC/PTV, 21's, Sport, etc).
If you could keep both, that would be the best of all worlds.
If I could only own just one of them, would I eliminate the CTT? yes. I would keep the 964T. But it is NOT for many of the reasons you are now considering a SUV to replace your 911. Our 964T has been thru all growth years of our kids (ages 7/8 -up-to- 20), so the memories are strong, plus all the current continued driving experiences,... would have us keeping the 964T.
Do I love the CTT? absolutely. It is an amazing SUV that I am autocrossing & having a blast with. In many cases it frees my mind to the daily hammering I can put on a Porsche again. It satisfies my obsession.
Conversely since the 964T has risen in collectability & value, that I now reserve those hard drives only when I'm with the PCA Club, and on specific tours.
So in the end, if you MUST sell your 911 (because of all the family reasons you listed on the 997 thread),... then absolutely get a Cayenne,... GTS or TT (as long as either has PDCC). You will not be disappointed. You will continue to have TONS of fun.
Best of luck with your endeavors.
=Steve
On the other 997 forum, your likely getting opinions & comments that are a closer in alignment to your direct situation, since you already own the 997,... and are thinking of selling it, to replace with a Cayenne.
Whereas here,... you'll find that many of us also have 911's (& keep BOTH of them),... but not all of us have those 911's for the same reason you owned & driven your 997.
In my case I have a 1991 964 Turbo (avatar). I also own & daily drive a 2012 CTT (& same as 4ocious, mine also has PDCC/PTV, 21's, Sport, etc).
If you could keep both, that would be the best of all worlds.
If I could only own just one of them, would I eliminate the CTT? yes. I would keep the 964T. But it is NOT for many of the reasons you are now considering a SUV to replace your 911. Our 964T has been thru all growth years of our kids (ages 7/8 -up-to- 20), so the memories are strong, plus all the current continued driving experiences,... would have us keeping the 964T.
Do I love the CTT? absolutely. It is an amazing SUV that I am autocrossing & having a blast with. In many cases it frees my mind to the daily hammering I can put on a Porsche again. It satisfies my obsession.
Conversely since the 964T has risen in collectability & value, that I now reserve those hard drives only when I'm with the PCA Club, and on specific tours.
So in the end, if you MUST sell your 911 (because of all the family reasons you listed on the 997 thread),... then absolutely get a Cayenne,... GTS or TT (as long as either has PDCC). You will not be disappointed. You will continue to have TONS of fun.
Best of luck with your endeavors.
=Steve
Secondly, I think you're sort of talking me in to just keeping the 911. I am trying to do the fiscally responsible and practical thing by selling it and getting something more family friendly, but owning a 911 isn't exactly about being fiscally responsible. It's about emotion. It's about buying the dream car that we've wanted as children. And you know what, maybe it just makes more sense to keep it, and then get something else as the larger more practical car that maybe isn't quite a Cayenne GTS in price.
That all said, I do think I owe it to myself to at least test drive a Cayenne and see if it hits some of those same notes from an emotion standpoint as my 997.2 does. I have found that if all you do with your car is commute, eventually it gets mundane no matter how exciting of a car it is. You gotta go and and rip through some gears every now and again to remind yourself why you bought a Porsche.
Sigh... first world problems, I know. Thanks for your thorough and insightful response.
03-14-2016, 09:41 PM
#14
vbb,
I have owned an 86, a 94, and currently own a 06 911 (997) I recently purchased an 09 Cayenne GTS. The 997 was my daily driver from 08, until 11. My commute was short and I was at a point in my life that I really didn't need to lug children around so it worked well for me. I leased a BMW 550 through the business after that and grew tired of its lack of utility. Today the 09 GTS is my daily driver and the 06 C2 Cab sits in the garage most of the time. The cayenne has been on several road trips to local ski areas as well as been on a few back roads as I also enjoy a little fly fishing when I have the chance. For me, the Cayenne has been an acceptable substitute. I don't drive the 997 very hard these days and frankly, the visceral feeling that you get from the older 911's is pretty much gone in the 997. The Cayenne is very comfortable, and in sport mode it (at the risk of getting flamed) gets after it. It's not a 911. but it has a lot of the attributes that make Porsche so much fun to own and drive. JMHO
I have owned an 86, a 94, and currently own a 06 911 (997) I recently purchased an 09 Cayenne GTS. The 997 was my daily driver from 08, until 11. My commute was short and I was at a point in my life that I really didn't need to lug children around so it worked well for me. I leased a BMW 550 through the business after that and grew tired of its lack of utility. Today the 09 GTS is my daily driver and the 06 C2 Cab sits in the garage most of the time. The cayenne has been on several road trips to local ski areas as well as been on a few back roads as I also enjoy a little fly fishing when I have the chance. For me, the Cayenne has been an acceptable substitute. I don't drive the 997 very hard these days and frankly, the visceral feeling that you get from the older 911's is pretty much gone in the 997. The Cayenne is very comfortable, and in sport mode it (at the risk of getting flamed) gets after it. It's not a 911. but it has a lot of the attributes that make Porsche so much fun to own and drive. JMHO
03-14-2016, 11:28 PM
#15
I have a 996 c4s and a CTT ... Considering I can't get the c4s up my mile of crazy *** dirt driveway the CTT is a great daily for me, it's no 911 but it corners amazingly well for an suv. Coming from a tundra and Tacoma it's a major upgrade.