Looking at my 5th Cayenne. Not really by choice, I love my '06 TTS. I may just need to dump a couple cars to lower some payments for my company and the best way to move a bunch of metal is trade in allowances. I've got a couple months that '13's are still late model, so that's my target. The GTS 0-60 is significantly off the Turbo, but I've heard the more linear acceleration curve of the GTS lends a most exhilarating driving experience. Would love some feedback from the forum. Thanks in advance.

 

I tested a 13GTS the other day. Compared to the TT it feels heavy the TT feels nimble

 

Virtually every YouTube review known to me mentions that the GTS engine doesn't really "kick in" until 3500 rpm. There are people on this forum who claim that even the Diesel has more get-up-and-go at lower RPMs than the GTS. Turbo does not seem to have this problem.

While the GTS is still quick 0-60, responsiveness is far more important in normal traffic situations.

Hope that throws light on your question.

 

Like driving a NA 911, the NA CS and CGTS do require the RPMs to be revved a bit to maximize their performance. IMHO it is the high revving character and correspondingly sweet exhaust noise that makes the NA V8 Cayennes more Porsche "sports-car" like. If you need to tow or just like raw torque, CTT & Diesel may be better choices for you and others.

 

I live at altitude, which really impacts the performance of naturally aspirated motors. That being said, I was pretty underwhelmed by the GTS. It sounds lovely and looks the part, but at least up here, it doesn't have a whole lotta bite to back up its bark...

 

Really? The GTS handles and feels far more sporty than the TT. Maybe in a straight line I would agree, but in the corners, the GTS feels more taught.

 

I'll chime in here, since I autocrossed my CTT against GTS' this past week out at the PCA Parade in Indiana.

I can safely say that the GTS' beat me in the one & only full 180 turn. They could exit that turn much quicker than me. Even though I was trying my best (paddle shifting in manual), it was next to impossible to keep the turbos spun up. I would lose all boost, and by the time they finally spun back up I had already arrived at the next gate & braking. BUT, I could keep it on boost for the whole first half of the track, AND the entire remainder.

Thus, I was able to beat all the GTS' and take 1st. I must also admit though, that the PDCC made a HUGE difference in my cornering. From my vantage point (while watching my competitors run), it was hard to tell how much body roll the GTS' were getting. I saw some. But for all I know, my CTT w/ PDCC might have looked the same in those same corners. There were a lot of corners of varying degrees, so it was a good track. Everyone loved it.

To be fair, the track was setup on the French Lick airport runway. So they had to setup much of it in essentially a long straight area (with varying degrees of S turns, with one 180 in the middle). I figured that type of setup would favor me when on boost. As compared to most of my local autocross tracks that are setup in airport parking lots, and thus have a LOT more large rounding turns, and tight small turns (very few straight shots). Those are much harder to keep it on boost, and thus the GTS' might do better on those. We'll see. I'm scheduled to run one of those later this month.

Either way, IT'S ALL FUN!! Git out there & push em!!
=Steve

 

I live in southern Florida with a 2013 GTS as my daily drive. If I keep it in sport mode I have never found a need for more power than the 420 hp. while the CTT may have better acceleration in long straights in my daily drive the linear acceleration and sound of the GTS is great. Every time I start the car it comes to life with a unique roar.

 

The GTS is conceived, made and driven for the roaring sound, which also implies that it needs to get to high revs often. The torque curve of the engine is intentionally skewed towards higher RPMs in order to get the engine revving where it can be heard.

My CTT rarely gets above 2000 RPM and that includes on-ramps as well as the upward direction on some 30' hills in San Francisco.

Then again, compared to the GTS, the CTT is silent as outer space throughout the RPM range.

GTS: more sound but which requires higher RPMs; slightly lighter

CTT: quiet, stately, weight not an issue with PDCC

 

TT

 

I am a new GTS owner (just got a 2013, still have my 06S, and had an 04S) and only drive in Sport mode.

I find that the car does not come alive until you exceed 3k RPM.

I have posted elsewhere that I find the upshifts a little slow (down shift speed is good). I don't expect a tiptronic to come close to a real F1 style gearbox (sub 100ms) but the upshifts feel slow.

Couple the RPMs, shift speed, and 8 gears (I am used to 6) and it does take some getting used to to get the most out of the engine.

That said, the overall driving experience of the GTS is pretty impressive for a car of this size and weight. Oh and the sounds at the higher revs are pretty awesome....

 

I'm not sure what everyone means by "linear acceleration curve" being more exhilarating... that must come from people who haven't driven a turbo. A turbo is significantly faster than a GTS at any point when you hit the GO pedal: starting at 0mph or at any speed beyond that a turbo will pull hard to its 6700rpm redline (same as the GTS)! Yes, 420hp/381 torque is a lot, but 500/516 is even more fun to tap into! A GTS is a lot about looking (due to aero and 20mm stance) and "feeling" sportier (due to sound and shifting): technically a GTS has as shorter final drive ratio so it will run through the gears faster, feeling sportier as you hit approach 6K RPM; it has a noisier muffler with the sport exhaust so it sounds louder than a whooshy turbo. With PDCC and PTVPlus (a must if you want to drive them in a sporty manner OR have great off-road capabilities OR have excellent trailer stability) and summer tires, both SUV's will handle incredibly and pull more G's than the other 3-4 passengers might enjoy. In the end you really need to go drive both and see if the sportier look and "feel" is what you're after, or if unbelievable acceleration for an SUV is what makes you smile... Have fun!

 

I'd rather be stealth and fast than pretending to be fast with a loud exhaust note. Not that the GTS is a slouch.

 

As I said earlier the GTS is lovely and is no doubt fast but the TT has total control over the weight of the car and makes it feel like 2000 pounds rather than its actual weight. Feels like it has sneakers on rather than boots

 

yes, the TT costs more, but it'll hold its value more as well.

I just recently bought one (2008 CTT) and I can definitely say that the beast is insane! I'm biased, but I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the TT over the GTS!