Cayenne owners?
#16
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Malcom, we've got a 2005 turbo with about 100k miles, 20k of them ours. Great car, adequate power, and tows nicely. We got the turbo largely for the air suspension, it is a rare option otherwise. We have winter tires for it, but haven't driven on snow in anger yet. (Our ski trip to Utah and Colorado last February was all dry roads...).
also come loaded with nav/Bluetooth etc etc
The one I drove today did quite well considering our snow, ice and its summer tyres
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#18
We've had an 08S for the past 2.5 years and love it. It's sporty and also comfortable for long trips (I haven't calculated the fuel economy but it's pretty dismal; better on smiles per gallon though). Regarding the cylinder scoring, if you search on the Cayenne subforum you'll see that Jake Raby (of Flat6Innovations) has observed that the problem happens disproportionately more in cold climates (search something like "Are all Cayennes ticking timebombs"). He thinks the problem stems from the tight tolerances combined with different rates of expansion of the piston and cylinder materials (i.e., the pistons expand faster than the cylinders). From what I recall, the 955s are more problematic (particularly the Ss, but turbos are also affected), though he has seen the problem on all modern Porsche engines, including in the 911 (fewer in the latter because they are less likely to be driven in cold weather). The symptoms begin with a ticking that sounds like a lifter, and then begins unusual oil consumption. He also adds that, despite this problem, the Cayenne engine is his favorite of all modern Porsche engines. He has developed a block heater to prevent this, but it hasn't come to market (and may not).
#19
Malcolm,
There are Cayennes, there are Cayenne turbos and then in 2006 there was the Cayenne Turbo S with a 0 to 60 of about 5 seconds. Put it in tiptronic manual at the traffic lights in first gear and press the go pedal! The handling beggars belief- your brain tends to give up before the car does because logic tells you a dustbin truck this big cannot go rounds bends like this thing does.
They have known issues- the coolant tubes, the carden shaft [mine went recently after 60k miles] and the air suspension can fail as well. My coolant tank let go and there are some vacuum lines under the hood that split and cause an alarm initially.
Get one that is well sorted and you will have fun but as with any Porsche- expect the bigger bills that go with it.
Regards
Fred
There are Cayennes, there are Cayenne turbos and then in 2006 there was the Cayenne Turbo S with a 0 to 60 of about 5 seconds. Put it in tiptronic manual at the traffic lights in first gear and press the go pedal! The handling beggars belief- your brain tends to give up before the car does because logic tells you a dustbin truck this big cannot go rounds bends like this thing does.
They have known issues- the coolant tubes, the carden shaft [mine went recently after 60k miles] and the air suspension can fail as well. My coolant tank let go and there are some vacuum lines under the hood that split and cause an alarm initially.
Get one that is well sorted and you will have fun but as with any Porsche- expect the bigger bills that go with it.
Regards
Fred
#20
The Cayenne is the best road trip car I've ever owned. Heated steering wheel, front and rear seats are nice. Even the S model is plenty fast and powerful.
The PO of mine had all the known failure points addressed (Coils, Cardan Shaft, Coolant pipes) and 15k miles later they traded it in. I was happy to grab it!
Check the torque damper bar too, the rubber bushing perishes at around 60k miles. Simple DIY fix though.
102,xxx miles and going strong. Mine is even in the "04-'05 VIN range for oil scraping rings installed upside down. I think this must have been fixed or is a non-issue in my car, because it only consumes about 1/2 a quart of 0w40 every 5k miles.
The only PITA I have run into so far is the Porsche dealer who serviced it for the PO must have over-torqued several bolts that hold down the coil packs. Those bolts are rated to only 10 ft/lbs. Cost me 5 hours of labor at my indy shop to chase threads. I think it's a good idea to replace all the relevant bolts and plastic anchors with new when servicing the plugs/coils and torque damper bar.
...dealing with 10 year old plastic bits is the one gripe I can think of.
The PO of mine had all the known failure points addressed (Coils, Cardan Shaft, Coolant pipes) and 15k miles later they traded it in. I was happy to grab it!
Check the torque damper bar too, the rubber bushing perishes at around 60k miles. Simple DIY fix though.
102,xxx miles and going strong. Mine is even in the "04-'05 VIN range for oil scraping rings installed upside down. I think this must have been fixed or is a non-issue in my car, because it only consumes about 1/2 a quart of 0w40 every 5k miles.
The only PITA I have run into so far is the Porsche dealer who serviced it for the PO must have over-torqued several bolts that hold down the coil packs. Those bolts are rated to only 10 ft/lbs. Cost me 5 hours of labor at my indy shop to chase threads. I think it's a good idea to replace all the relevant bolts and plastic anchors with new when servicing the plugs/coils and torque damper bar.
...dealing with 10 year old plastic bits is the one gripe I can think of.
#21
don't let this scare you
I’ll start by saying I love my 2006 Cayenne S. I don’t think the fuel mileage changes with the engine choice (they all love fuel). My coolant tubes were done by the previous owner. I bought it with 70,000 kms and shortly thereafter I replaced the cardan shaft. I change the oil every 10,000km, but I think the Porsche intervals are 25,000miles…which is too long for my liking.
Last winter I went into a ditch (not far… 3 out of 4 wheels) I was trying to rock the vehicle back and forth (gently). But I could not get the vehicle to move forwards or reverse. I was eventually pulled out…however (funny thing) when they pulled me backwards my front wheels were rolling in the right direction…but my rear wheels were moving in the opposite direction (not good). I had the vehicle loaded on a flat-bed tow truck and delivered to the Porsche Dealer. When we got there they had to shake the SUV off the back because the wheels were moving in different directions…
The cause: there are 2-3 pins in the transfer case that hold the planetary gear on the shaft…one or two of those pins backed out and got caught in the gears and bound up the transfer case. At the time, not knowing what the problem was…only that I was stuck, I switched the transfer case into low and locked up the diff….lots of torq now!! That was likely the reason my transmission was next to go…
So…$16,000.00 later for a transfer case and transmission…and I was good to go.
I think this was a complete fluke…I have never heard of anyone else who has had this issue.
Call me crazy…I still love it
Last winter I went into a ditch (not far… 3 out of 4 wheels) I was trying to rock the vehicle back and forth (gently). But I could not get the vehicle to move forwards or reverse. I was eventually pulled out…however (funny thing) when they pulled me backwards my front wheels were rolling in the right direction…but my rear wheels were moving in the opposite direction (not good). I had the vehicle loaded on a flat-bed tow truck and delivered to the Porsche Dealer. When we got there they had to shake the SUV off the back because the wheels were moving in different directions…
The cause: there are 2-3 pins in the transfer case that hold the planetary gear on the shaft…one or two of those pins backed out and got caught in the gears and bound up the transfer case. At the time, not knowing what the problem was…only that I was stuck, I switched the transfer case into low and locked up the diff….lots of torq now!! That was likely the reason my transmission was next to go…
So…$16,000.00 later for a transfer case and transmission…and I was good to go.
I think this was a complete fluke…I have never heard of anyone else who has had this issue.
Call me crazy…I still love it
#22
I have an 04 Turbo and love it. If you don't have badge blindness get a Touareg. I had an 04 V8 Touareg before this and it was very nice. The only reason for the Porsche was the 450hp. But a very capable vehicle indeed.
#27
Malcolm - what year JGC are you currently driving? I had an '11 and am currently in a '14 and have loved both. IIRC, the 2011-on JCG was one of the last projects when Chrysler/Jeep was still part of Daimler Benz, it's basically a slightly stretched M-class and is built like a brick. Obviously not a Cayenne, but still a great SUV for the money.
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Malcolm - what year JGC are you currently driving? I had an '11 and am currently in a '14 and have loved both. IIRC, the 2011-on JCG was one of the last projects when Chrysler/Jeep was still part of Daimler Benz, it's basically a slightly stretched M-class and is built like a brick. Obviously not a Cayenne, but still a great SUV for the money.
The JGC is a fine appliance type vehicle; the Cayenne appears to be much more.
#30
The response on the scoring issue from Porsche is the cars went too long between oil changes and the wrong winter viscosity was used for the cold conditions. At least that is what my mechanic says Porsche is stating in their factory training courses.