2013 Cayanne S. New owner getting nervous
#1
2013 Cayanne S. New owner getting nervous
By way of intro.....I am the proud new owner of a new 13 CS. I have always wanted a porsche product and am thrilled with the truck
My brief history. In 2005 I purchased a 1999 Ferrari 355 a car long a part of my bucket list. It was a stunning low mileage vehicle. At that point I began visiting f-chat and was shocked at the constant barrage of mechanical complaints and stories of nightmare ownership experiences with that car. Although that car never experienced even one issue, my driving pleasure was crushed by my paranoia. Every time I took the car out I saw ghosts, heard noises, etc. After 2 1/2 years I sold the car. Not one problem, not one issue with it ever. I regret selling that car everyday.
Now I have begun reading porsche chat forums and am beginning to get the same feeling I believed porsche to be a basically bullet proof brand. Don't get me wrong, I take meticulous care of my vehicle both mechanically and appearance wise.
I typically keep my daily driver cars for 10 plus years. I only put about 3-5000 miles a year on my car. My concern is am I ok with the Cayanne? With regular recommended maintenance can I expect this car to be reliable and bullet proof for 50,000 miles over a 10 year period? One added factor, I live in ny and the car lives 24/7 out side.
I add this because I read about this scoring issue if the car is started in the cold.
Please give me your opinions. Thanks.
My brief history. In 2005 I purchased a 1999 Ferrari 355 a car long a part of my bucket list. It was a stunning low mileage vehicle. At that point I began visiting f-chat and was shocked at the constant barrage of mechanical complaints and stories of nightmare ownership experiences with that car. Although that car never experienced even one issue, my driving pleasure was crushed by my paranoia. Every time I took the car out I saw ghosts, heard noises, etc. After 2 1/2 years I sold the car. Not one problem, not one issue with it ever. I regret selling that car everyday.
Now I have begun reading porsche chat forums and am beginning to get the same feeling I believed porsche to be a basically bullet proof brand. Don't get me wrong, I take meticulous care of my vehicle both mechanically and appearance wise.
I typically keep my daily driver cars for 10 plus years. I only put about 3-5000 miles a year on my car. My concern is am I ok with the Cayanne? With regular recommended maintenance can I expect this car to be reliable and bullet proof for 50,000 miles over a 10 year period? One added factor, I live in ny and the car lives 24/7 out side.
I add this because I read about this scoring issue if the car is started in the cold.
Please give me your opinions. Thanks.
Last edited by Eli355; 06-12-2014 at 09:09 AM. Reason: Correction
#2
Internet forums do this.
Like any car, the Cayenne has/will have weaknesess. Usually very new models (e.g. first generation Cayennes) are more prone to issues. After all, the Cayenne was a completely new vehicle when launched.
The 958 generation (what you have) should be a very relaible vehicle. Our GTS has been absolutely perfect thus far. Also, Porsche has been doing very well on the JD Power three year dependability study. Now, all such studies have their quirks, but this is a much less biased view then you can ever get from internet forum discussion.
Much of what is said on the internet about the likelihood of issues I discount. When I bought my Subaru WRX in 2001, I started reading the forums and was horrified to hear how many serious issues the car had and how certain I was to encounter them. Really bad stuff.
Well, 13 years later and none of it ever happened.
Look, the Cayenne is a complex vehicle. Things can go wrong and they do sometimes. There is no guarantee that you won't have an issue, but they are overall very good vehicles. Maintain it well, enjoy it, and if something does happen, fix it right.
Like any car, the Cayenne has/will have weaknesess. Usually very new models (e.g. first generation Cayennes) are more prone to issues. After all, the Cayenne was a completely new vehicle when launched.
The 958 generation (what you have) should be a very relaible vehicle. Our GTS has been absolutely perfect thus far. Also, Porsche has been doing very well on the JD Power three year dependability study. Now, all such studies have their quirks, but this is a much less biased view then you can ever get from internet forum discussion.
Much of what is said on the internet about the likelihood of issues I discount. When I bought my Subaru WRX in 2001, I started reading the forums and was horrified to hear how many serious issues the car had and how certain I was to encounter them. Really bad stuff.
Well, 13 years later and none of it ever happened.
Look, the Cayenne is a complex vehicle. Things can go wrong and they do sometimes. There is no guarantee that you won't have an issue, but they are overall very good vehicles. Maintain it well, enjoy it, and if something does happen, fix it right.
#4
Internet forums can drive you to drink heavily...
These boards consist of problem-solving discussions. People make posts when things break. If you only read these forums, you'll only read about problems. People rarely make posts to report that everything is great and there are no problems.
Drive your Cayenne and don't worry about it.
These boards consist of problem-solving discussions. People make posts when things break. If you only read these forums, you'll only read about problems. People rarely make posts to report that everything is great and there are no problems.
Drive your Cayenne and don't worry about it.
#6
My wife's 09 CS is in the shop now. $4K of warranty repairs (plus service and brakes). Bought a Fidelity aftermarket warranty a year ago when the factory warranty ran out. Also had a couple grand of warranty repairs a year ago just after the Fidelity kicked in. While I have found my pcars to be very reliable, I don't think I would want to own one with a warranty at least for major items. The cost of a Fidelity warranty is quite reasonable (important to buy before the OEM warranty runs out. I think you can get up to 6 years additional coverage (got 5 on my 09 TT), so that would cover your 10 years.
#7
That was my thought
You have to take what you read on any car forum with a grain of salt and do your own research to understand the real level of risk.
I would suggest that if you get to the point that you did with your Ferrari, then don't replace it with another high dollar enthusiasts car. Stick with something plain so you aren't stressing over it as that is no way to live/drive.
The 958s have been on the road here since the 11 MY and they don't seem to have common complaints. That's doesn't mean that your car won't have issues, just that there don't seem to be "normal" problems.
Drive it, enjoy it, and fix it when it breaks. That's all you can do.
You have to take what you read on any car forum with a grain of salt and do your own research to understand the real level of risk.
I would suggest that if you get to the point that you did with your Ferrari, then don't replace it with another high dollar enthusiasts car. Stick with something plain so you aren't stressing over it as that is no way to live/drive.
The 958s have been on the road here since the 11 MY and they don't seem to have common complaints. That's doesn't mean that your car won't have issues, just that there don't seem to be "normal" problems.
Drive it, enjoy it, and fix it when it breaks. That's all you can do.
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#8
Forums certainly lead to paranoia. But hey sometimes paranoia can be good, leads to better preventative maintenance and longer life of these cars and more of them to go around! Am I worried about my 924S timing belt going and ****ing up the engine? Sure, but after I get it done I won't worry about it for the next 3-5 years unless I hear some REALLY odd noises coming out of the engine.
Truth about the 996 too... estimated that only 10% or less of those cars have IMS issues and usually because they are soft driven low mileage examples, but it certainly doesn't hurt to retrofit and be 100% sure and save all the cars you possibly can.
Sucks that you didn't realize about Ferraris and basically all high performance cars that they can have issues... I didn't know that either and it was quite a wake up call to me. Seems obvious in hindsight. An engine pushed to the limits will have higher incidences of problems! But doing my research I've found Porsche to be one of the most dependable high performance brands as of late. Even if they're not the FASTEST performance cars they are definitely the most practical for everyday use (comfort, reliability, fuel economy, etc)! Hell a lot of them even handle amazingly well in snow (even not counting the Cayenne or Macan)!
Truth about the 996 too... estimated that only 10% or less of those cars have IMS issues and usually because they are soft driven low mileage examples, but it certainly doesn't hurt to retrofit and be 100% sure and save all the cars you possibly can.
Sucks that you didn't realize about Ferraris and basically all high performance cars that they can have issues... I didn't know that either and it was quite a wake up call to me. Seems obvious in hindsight. An engine pushed to the limits will have higher incidences of problems! But doing my research I've found Porsche to be one of the most dependable high performance brands as of late. Even if they're not the FASTEST performance cars they are definitely the most practical for everyday use (comfort, reliability, fuel economy, etc)! Hell a lot of them even handle amazingly well in snow (even not counting the Cayenne or Macan)!
#9
I have Cayenne 2011 Turbo.
Had numerous faults with it.
18k km coolant pipes were replaced along with thermostat.
30k km the plastic air vent control to move air in direction you want snapped on 2 air vents left side.
50k km the drivers door electric window switches to put window up and down snapped of again plastic parts, leaving just a stumpy piece of plastic, on top of that the drivers window will not go down on its own unless you hold the switch on.
75k km air suspension failure, air compressor replaced and front shock due to a sticking valve.
80k km Cam chain snapped still waiting on the outcome.
This is not including tyres and brakes etc normal expenses.
Would i buy another Porsche absolutely no way, great car when its working but after owning numerous porsches over the years including the very first generation cayenne turbo which never had a fault, this has to be the worst porsche i have owned for build quality and my money will not be going near another cayenne thats for sure.
The car is also my wives car and spends its time doing school runs and shopping trips never gets abused.
Had numerous faults with it.
18k km coolant pipes were replaced along with thermostat.
30k km the plastic air vent control to move air in direction you want snapped on 2 air vents left side.
50k km the drivers door electric window switches to put window up and down snapped of again plastic parts, leaving just a stumpy piece of plastic, on top of that the drivers window will not go down on its own unless you hold the switch on.
75k km air suspension failure, air compressor replaced and front shock due to a sticking valve.
80k km Cam chain snapped still waiting on the outcome.
This is not including tyres and brakes etc normal expenses.
Would i buy another Porsche absolutely no way, great car when its working but after owning numerous porsches over the years including the very first generation cayenne turbo which never had a fault, this has to be the worst porsche i have owned for build quality and my money will not be going near another cayenne thats for sure.
The car is also my wives car and spends its time doing school runs and shopping trips never gets abused.