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Old 08-30-2013 | 11:55 PM
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I'm thinking about purchasing an 08' or 09' Cayenne GTS I see a couple here that have been sitting for awhile for $39,99x.00 does anyone know why they've been sitting so long? Carfax seem to be ok but I know that you can't trust the carfax totally. Any insight would be much appreciated.

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Old 08-31-2013 | 01:55 AM
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The first one being dark green probably doesn't help it much.....
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Id fo for the first one with warranty.
Old 08-31-2013 | 11:16 AM
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For a lot of used shoppers its hard to justify a $40k GTS when a Turbo just a few years older can be had for half the price!!

Buy 2x Turbos, buy a Cayenne Turbo and a 996 Carerra, etc for the same money!

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Thanks folks for the responses. I just have concerns on repair cost on the Turbos vs. Non-Turbo. Or should I even be concerned at all? I like to stay with a 08 or 09 just because of the updated cast coolant hoses. Maybe I should start pricing out the Turbos but I assume they would be higher than the GTS around the same year.

Both of the 2 GTS I posted are interesting I might have to take a closer look at the Green one. I'm not a big fan of Green but the CPO warranty and according to the carfax all the service was done locally at a Porsche Dealer is nice to see. I could live with the Green I guess. I'll let you all know if I go out there this weekend.
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There is an extremely low rate of failure on the turbos.. to the point of being completely neglible. There is no reason NOT to get a turbo. A gts is essentially an S with upgraded exhaust and a body kit and sitting a bit lower. If you have $40k budgetted you can definitely find an 08 turbo and there is NO reason not to. Did I mentioned that you should get a turbo? AND cole does have a point about only spending $20k and getting about 95% of the ride for half price.
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Thanks, this really helps. I guess if I could find a 06 Turbo or Turbo S for 20-30K I can spend the extra cash on the updated coolant hoses, brakes, drive shaft. I'd definitely do a PPI. What's a good average mileage should I be looking at if it's a 06 Turbo? 70K miles.....
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Unless you need a manual transmission, go with the turbo.

Shift it yourself was a requirement for me, so the turbo was a non-starter.
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Cole has a point but I'm also pretty sure that an equal number of used car shoppers would take the newer vehicle as a preference.

I have just sold a mint condition 09 GTS with 59,000 miles for $39,500 and replaced it with a mint condition 09 CTT with 47,500 miles for $42,200. The prices here are very close together due to the desirability of the GTS, but I'm not sure if this is applicable in the States.
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Thanks Everyone! You all got me thinking and sold on the CTT. From what I've read about the Cayenne's reliability in Excellence magazine buyer guide and coming here for the usual great RLers info I think I'll look at a earlier Turbo. I would love a GTS but if a 03-06 turbo can be around half the price with all the updates already done that will probably be a better bet for me.
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Personally, I'd go with the newest you can afford (because it gives you the newest PCM) and whatever car has the longest CPO warranty remaining. Just keep in mind that coolant pipes and cardan shafts aren't the only costly things that can go wrong on these trucks. When I was shopping, I thought that the GTS has much better exhaust sound and just couldn't find a turbo interior that I liked.

Brakes and tires are very expensive consumables but they are the same on both.
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Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
Personally, I'd go with the newest you can afford (because it gives you the newest PCM) .
Your talking $20k difference though. If the first one breaks, buy a complete replacement car and you are still money ahead
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Your talking $20k difference though. If the first one breaks, buy a complete replacement car and you are still money ahead
The newest PCM gives you the best navigation and IPhone compatibility. I'm not saying that I can justify the $20k price difference, because frankly you could make that argument with any used car. I think CPO is important on these trucks, especially those with air suspension and other expensive options that cost a lot to fix if they break.
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Many of those repairs are rare though, and if you had every failure ever documented you won't make up the $20k difference.

$20k is a lot to pay for iPod compatibility. Lots of cheaper options for this.


I'd agree with all this if you were talking $3k difference, but we are talking enough money to buy a boat, track car, motorcycle and a trailer to pull it all with.
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Upgrading to get 2009 car tech done by Germans is not compelling to me. Germans always deliver wonky implementation of car electronics. The 2009 navi is still way behind anything contemporary. The reason to upgrade is PDCC, the couple updates and if you prefer the new lipstick. Personally I like the look of 955's better than the 957's. I'm sure others will disagree.

I don't think CPO is important. My mechanic was the main tech at Niello Porshe for many years before opening his own shop. He wrenched countless cayennes. He has many current customers with them too some with over 200k miles. He says air suspension rarely fails and never catastrophically. Cylinder scoring is extremely rare. Do the updates (normal suspects) and these are really solid trucks.


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