22's on a Cayenne
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22's on a Cayenne
Does anyone have 22's on their Cayenne (I have a 2013 Diesel)... was wondering if it's 'too large' and has negative effects on ride and safety. It LOOKS great IMO.
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Have the 22's on our TT, the ride is fine with PASM.
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Have a 2005 CS with 22" TechArt Wheels. Tires on it are 295/30 22 Pirelli Scorpion Zero.
Good:
Looks great, corners well.
Bad:
- "30s" profile for tire makes the ride too harsh on springs (Non PASM)
- "30s" profile tire with its "thin" sidewall makes the tire too weak for even paved city driving.
(pulled into a gas station at a slow speed and the sidewall "popped" on the "on ramp"... didn't see any
debris that may have cause the puncture [more of a split than puncture]). Tire dealerships says this is common for low profile tires and cited a guy with a bmw that came in for three tires on three separate occaisions within six months.
- tire selection for 22s not great
- too much stress or pressure on the sidewall if suv has one side on a slope and the other side on flat pavement, eg. right side on a drive way on ramp to garage, left side on flat pavement.
I am going to be looking for 20" wheels and "35" or "40" profile and probably 285 wide. 285/35 20. This way I don't have to actively avoid man hole covers, etc..
One more thing. When putting on the new tire on the wheel, during balancing, the 22" wheel wobbles. Another problem with larger wheels I am told... structural integrity.
Good:
Looks great, corners well.
Bad:
- "30s" profile for tire makes the ride too harsh on springs (Non PASM)
- "30s" profile tire with its "thin" sidewall makes the tire too weak for even paved city driving.
(pulled into a gas station at a slow speed and the sidewall "popped" on the "on ramp"... didn't see any
debris that may have cause the puncture [more of a split than puncture]). Tire dealerships says this is common for low profile tires and cited a guy with a bmw that came in for three tires on three separate occaisions within six months.
- tire selection for 22s not great
- too much stress or pressure on the sidewall if suv has one side on a slope and the other side on flat pavement, eg. right side on a drive way on ramp to garage, left side on flat pavement.
I am going to be looking for 20" wheels and "35" or "40" profile and probably 285 wide. 285/35 20. This way I don't have to actively avoid man hole covers, etc..
One more thing. When putting on the new tire on the wheel, during balancing, the 22" wheel wobbles. Another problem with larger wheels I am told... structural integrity.
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It frankly depends a lot on your own tastes for ride quality.
I have PASM and am already appreciating the ride improvement going from 50 series 19s to 60 series 18s for an off road adventure and for next winter. Now sure the handling is a little more squishy so I'll put the 19s back on it for daily use but I cannot imagine riding on 40 series tires much less 30 series rubber bands.
I would prefer to have 50 series tires on 20s as the ultimate compromise though that adds an inch to over all tire height.
I have PASM and am already appreciating the ride improvement going from 50 series 19s to 60 series 18s for an off road adventure and for next winter. Now sure the handling is a little more squishy so I'll put the 19s back on it for daily use but I cannot imagine riding on 40 series tires much less 30 series rubber bands.
I would prefer to have 50 series tires on 20s as the ultimate compromise though that adds an inch to over all tire height.
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Now you are talking my language. Lets really get jiggy and choose forged mono blocks for the 20's so after adding the oversized tires overall unsprung weight is kept in check.
Because after all it is an SUV. Im a big fan of having some tire between me and the road. When I see them riding on 22's with low profile tires... Well it's a like a pig in ballet slippers. Give me some cross trainers at least.
Because after all it is an SUV. Im a big fan of having some tire between me and the road. When I see them riding on 22's with low profile tires... Well it's a like a pig in ballet slippers. Give me some cross trainers at least.
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I find the ride on the factory staggered set 20" Sport Techno wheels mounted with N spec 275/40/20's just about perfect. If I need a softer ride, I switch into the "Comfort" mode.
But being a wheel *****, I'm planning to give 21's a try since they've been blessed by the factory and have a good selection of tires available in the correct size.
For 22's, you're pretty much left with a Hobson's choice - choose either incorrect fitment / load index or no 22's at all. If you go 285/35/22, your load index (106, factory for 20's is 107) is okay, but your overall diameter is too large. If you go 295/30/22, your overall diameter is okay, but your load index (102) is dangerously insufficient for the weight of a Cayenne.
But being a wheel *****, I'm planning to give 21's a try since they've been blessed by the factory and have a good selection of tires available in the correct size.
For 22's, you're pretty much left with a Hobson's choice - choose either incorrect fitment / load index or no 22's at all. If you go 285/35/22, your load index (106, factory for 20's is 107) is okay, but your overall diameter is too large. If you go 295/30/22, your overall diameter is okay, but your load index (102) is dangerously insufficient for the weight of a Cayenne.
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spooltime, thanks for bringing up load capacity as a factor. According to Tirerack:
295/30/22 load index = 103, load capacity = 1929
285/35/22 load index = 106, load capacity = 2094
Factory 20s load index = 107, load capacity = 2149
That is 220 lbs difference between what I have "295s" and Factory "20s". That probably contributes to why the 295s split just driving into a gas station.
What is the tire size for Factory 20s?
canon_mutant, what is the tire size in your picture... looks like your 19" with 50s... but how wide... thanks.
endless_corners, I agree with you that the Cayenne is a SUV and there should be a hefty amount of tire between vehicle and road. I bought the CS with 22s and that to me is turning the SUV into a street car/racer... looks good and corners well but I would rather have a "tougher" SUV with higher sidewalls and thus a relatively softer ride than what I have now.
Thanks everyone for your posts. Great members makes a great forum.
ps. I use to have a truck frame Pathfinder with pretty big tires... high clearance... drives like a water bug on snow and can go up/down curbs effortlessly. 5 speed with adjustable ride shocks. It was pretty nice. Until I change the CS' wheel and tire sizes, I will have to baby the CS which counters what I should be able to do with a Trans-Siberian winner.
295/30/22 load index = 103, load capacity = 1929
285/35/22 load index = 106, load capacity = 2094
Factory 20s load index = 107, load capacity = 2149
That is 220 lbs difference between what I have "295s" and Factory "20s". That probably contributes to why the 295s split just driving into a gas station.
What is the tire size for Factory 20s?
canon_mutant, what is the tire size in your picture... looks like your 19" with 50s... but how wide... thanks.
endless_corners, I agree with you that the Cayenne is a SUV and there should be a hefty amount of tire between vehicle and road. I bought the CS with 22s and that to me is turning the SUV into a street car/racer... looks good and corners well but I would rather have a "tougher" SUV with higher sidewalls and thus a relatively softer ride than what I have now.
Thanks everyone for your posts. Great members makes a great forum.
ps. I use to have a truck frame Pathfinder with pretty big tires... high clearance... drives like a water bug on snow and can go up/down curbs effortlessly. 5 speed with adjustable ride shocks. It was pretty nice. Until I change the CS' wheel and tire sizes, I will have to baby the CS which counters what I should be able to do with a Trans-Siberian winner.
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I am new to this forum and also a new owner. I bought a 2006 S with 22k on the clock. It came with aftermarket 22"s and Yokohama tires. The roads are pretty good in sunny south florida. The pepper will do some light towing (a 2300 lbs civic on an open trailer). I will monitor and report the tire/wheel experience. So far the ride is great....but that's always relative to what you know.