Hey guys,

I've got my eye on an '06 CS titanium with 73k at a local Porsche dealer.

I've driven the car and all seemed well apart from the steering wobbled under braking so I presume warped front disks? Also the driver side trans tunnel grab handle leather was worn. Is this normal for this mileage?

Also I asked the dealer about the usual suspects (coolant pipes, coil packs, Cardan shaft etc.) and he just gave a generic answer that if they were worn or bad they would have been replaced.....basically he doesn't know.

He said he could sort the brakes, but the vehicle is being sold without a warranty. Of course he's offering as an extra an extended warranty which he said will cover these items (I'd like to see the small print though!)

Question is, do I try and beat the price down based on these potential problems, buy as is and keep the money for if/when a repair is needed, or do I try to get him to include the warranty in the asking price (and then sweat him a bit more )

 

Since it basically is coming with no warranty, and since there is no advantage to buying from a P dealer if they have the attitude "We'll fix it AFTER you buy it.." I'd walk away.

Bet the asking price is $10k more then I paid for an orphan. An orphan is a car out of place - like a Cayenne at a Chevy dealer (or insert brand of choice..) In my local area, a Ford/Mercury dealer has one, a KIA dealer has a Turbo, and there are a few others floating around. Since the P dealer isn't doing anything with the car making it worth the extra money they're asking - why buy from them? Keep looking, bet you can find lower miles for less $$$ then at the P dealer just by searching the Interwebz a bit.

 

I just bought an '04 CS with 17K miles from a Ferrari/Porsche store for a great price back of book.

There are deals to be had, as well as good cars.... I'm used to Ferrari shopping, where there are 5-10 cars available. I think I had to narrow the Cayenne field down from 800+ candidates!

 

Know the feeling...

 

How much are they asking?

I'm toying with the idea of seeling my 06 CS Titanium w/77K miles PLUS about 14 months of remaining CPO......

 

They're selling it for $26k, which seems the going rate from a dealer. The warranty he's offering is with "Easy Care" as below:
1 Year/ 12,000 miles = $2,900
2 Year/ 24,000 miles = $5,800
3 Year/ 36,000 miles = $7,800

Seems v.expensive and not worth it as worst case, you're looking at around $4.5k total for the pipes, coils and cardan shaft....assuming they haven't been done already.

Ideally I'd like a car with the pipes, coils and cardan shaft already sorted as that will get rid of a lot of the worry, particularly the water pipes. I don't want a car I worry about.
The biggest item though is the water pipes as its a safety concern in that it has the potential to leave you stranded by the roadside.

Also, who would knowingly buy a car which has a $2-3k repair bill looming without an appropriate discount?

 

I think you can do better. I just picked up my 06 S Titanium with 55K for 30K and two year CPO. Also don't limit yourself to an S...I wish I didn't "think" I wanted a turbo, but after I drove one I was like wish I would have waited. For 26K you can get a CPO'ed car for sure. A couple thousand up front will definately save you a couple thousand later.

 

I did figure I was able to do better but from where? The usual internet sources haven't really come up with anything much better, certainly not in the Chicagoland area. Where's the best place to find used Cayennes?

A turbo would be great (and actually my preferred choice) but I'm wary of the miles and age my budget allows and the extra "stuff" on the Turbo that can go wrong (suspension, turbos etc.). Are early cars more problematic or will most problem areas have been sorted by now and with 80k+ miles?
Last thing I want is a car that can go great but spends most of its time in the shop not going at all!!

I already have a car like that ('02 TVR Tuscan S) which is now sorted and reliable, but I've done lots to it over the years to get it to where it is now, but that's a labour of love (much to my wife's annoyance), and not what I want from a Cayenne.

 

i was shopping for another lincoln navigator, then 06 titanium, and finally ended up with an 04 turbo. while shopping for lincoln and going on lincolnvscadillac forums the exact same issue," it would be better to purchase a 90k mile navigator than one with 40k-60k"

 

Buy a car from the southwest (Cali, Az, etc). The warm dry weather is less harsh on the car. Cars from the NE will be rusted from winter salt (even 2 year old cars show rust underneath). Make the dealer change out the coolant pipes as part of the deal. Coils aren't a big deal and the cardam shaft is not as big an issue on later model cayennes. 06 was a good year for them... Most bugs were out by then. You won't have many issues but try and by the lowest mileage you can afford. You should be able to find better for $26k. If you don't get titanium, you'll get a better car for the same money. Titanium is just flashy add ons anyways.

 

An 06 with 55k for 30k and CPO -- thats the way to go. The lower miles and the CPO are well worth the extra 4k -- Absolutely ....no question about it.

My 06 now at just under 50k had all the bugs worked out around 35k. Personally, I would never buy a low mile Cayenne unless it was CPO - too many things can go wrong. Mine was a real pain from 20 - 25k -- I would not have been a happy camper if this was my primary driver.

The coils and the shaft are known problems -- but most of the cars will have had the coils taken care by now and with rebuilt shafts available this is no longer a real expense.

The pipes are an issue -- and they made me very nervous taking my truck on any extended trips. If I was buying a non-CPO car I would get one needing pipes unless I was sure of the history. Not knowing if the engine had overheated when the pipes went would be an issue with me and the Porsche V8 ............Porsche replaced mine prior to failure.

I recently had mine up on a lift to replace the rear brakes and a normal service - I was shocked at how clean the underside was. Now -- it goes to the car wash about once a week and they do the underbody wash - but I was expecting a rusty bolt head someplace -- nothing.

 

would you consider buying a car without personally seeing them? look around the net (ebay, cars.com, etc), you can find good deals depending on the the place and inventory (i guess).. not sure what other things are needed for buyers outside of the state where the car is being sold but i went to this route (although the deal i found was within the same state, but different city)... saw the car on ebay, talked to the dealer, took care of the financing side, got the check, drove there with my car to trade and got home with the cayenne. i was even thinking of getting a car as far as florida and/or chicago (was looking for an 06 CTT, but ended getting a CTT-S instead).. i don't mind shipping the car, some of the dealers may work with you with the cost of shipping.. go for a CPO when you can

 

Gaahhh.......took an '04 CTT for a spin over the weekend and much preferred it to the CS. The performance is much more in line with what I want.
So over a CS, what do you need to look out for on an early and leggy Turbo? Do the turbos like to eat themselves? Does the air suspension crap the bed after a certain milage?

Am I best avoiding the Turbo if I don't want massive repair bills all the time or are they as dependable and of similar cost to run as a CS?

 

Dave when I refinanced my car my credit union offered me warranty for 800 bucks, same coverage as what you mentioned previously. I think its better to finance via Credit Unions as their rates are not effected by anything "in the market"......and they will cough up warranties etc for 40 cents on the dollar of what you get through traditional Nationalized banks/creditors.