Faulty Steering code
11-14-2022, 04:19 AM
#76
There are few faults with the ELV. 1 being the motor wearing out, 2nd beign the relays within the board wearing out.
I would suggest to have that emulator board as standby (inexpensive) for when this problem happens if you intend to keep the car for a longer period. Almost half of all the 955/957 cayennes owners I've know here has this issue in the past.
I would suggest to have that emulator board as standby (inexpensive) for when this problem happens if you intend to keep the car for a longer period. Almost half of all the 955/957 cayennes owners I've know here has this issue in the past.
11-14-2022, 04:22 AM
#77
The error needs to be cleared by PIWIS or a compatible scan tool.
Basicall what the KESSY or whatever module that interface with the ELV does is
1. Check with the ELV if the VIN registered matches.
2. Check if it's in the locked state
3. If so, get the ELV to unlock and the ELV unlocks and returns status
I suspect you case it's stuck in 1 or 2. Get the error cleared first. Disconnecting the battery does nothign tot he error.
Basicall what the KESSY or whatever module that interface with the ELV does is
1. Check with the ELV if the VIN registered matches.
2. Check if it's in the locked state
3. If so, get the ELV to unlock and the ELV unlocks and returns status
I suspect you case it's stuck in 1 or 2. Get the error cleared first. Disconnecting the battery does nothign tot he error.
11-14-2022, 04:23 AM
#78
Good idea, I don't know whether it may just been a dud ELV emulator board I received, don't know how to test to find out!
I did a bit of reasearch last night, and there are 2 factories that makes these ELV emulator for Cayenne, seller suggest they are pretty much equal, but then the design on the board is actually very different. hahaha
I did a bit of reasearch last night, and there are 2 factories that makes these ELV emulator for Cayenne, seller suggest they are pretty much equal, but then the design on the board is actually very different. hahaha
11-14-2022, 04:26 AM
#79
Yes there is 2. The first being with a seperate speaker. If you don't mind the cost, no harm trying with a 2nd board. But i'd check with the continuity of the chip to the current board first regardless of how simple the guy that did it claims for it to be.
11-14-2022, 04:27 AM
#80
The error needs to be cleared by PIWIS or a compatible scan tool.
Basicall what the KESSY or whatever module that interface with the ELV does is
1. Check with the ELV if the VIN registered matches.
2. Check if it's in the locked state
3. If so, get the ELV to unlock and the ELV unlocks and returns status
I suspect you case it's stuck in 1 or 2. Get the error cleared first. Disconnecting the battery does nothign tot he error.
Basicall what the KESSY or whatever module that interface with the ELV does is
1. Check with the ELV if the VIN registered matches.
2. Check if it's in the locked state
3. If so, get the ELV to unlock and the ELV unlocks and returns status
I suspect you case it's stuck in 1 or 2. Get the error cleared first. Disconnecting the battery does nothign tot he error.
I should try not turning the car on and clear the error. not sure my keyless start also interferes with the sequence
11-16-2022, 01:48 AM
#82
Thank you Ben and everyone else for chipping in.
After a bit more reading, and through some of the descriptions in speedo solutions' KESSY service
Remanufacture applies to the Proximity system components within the Kessy module, often resulting in no start when the proximity system is used to unlock the vehicle and related "288 - Steering Lock Actuator (N360) - "IMPLAUSIBLE" Fault within the Kessy module.
I think this is the rare occasion that KESSY is the culprit (I am just guessing here), as you often see from forum that one or two odd people with 0288 error and the simple MOSFET / HALL sensor / Motor replacement won't fix.
Biggest tell I think is that I never really get this steering fault on dash + now that I have removed the ELV, upon opening the door, steering lock fault pops up, which is quite different to what the others are seeing partly due to the proximity key.
Now my options are either send whole set up to a specialist to trouble shoot or perhaps get a new KESSY (not guarantee will work)
After a bit more reading, and through some of the descriptions in speedo solutions' KESSY service
Remanufacture applies to the Proximity system components within the Kessy module, often resulting in no start when the proximity system is used to unlock the vehicle and related "288 - Steering Lock Actuator (N360) - "IMPLAUSIBLE" Fault within the Kessy module.
I think this is the rare occasion that KESSY is the culprit (I am just guessing here), as you often see from forum that one or two odd people with 0288 error and the simple MOSFET / HALL sensor / Motor replacement won't fix.
Biggest tell I think is that I never really get this steering fault on dash + now that I have removed the ELV, upon opening the door, steering lock fault pops up, which is quite different to what the others are seeing partly due to the proximity key.
Now my options are either send whole set up to a specialist to trouble shoot or perhaps get a new KESSY (not guarantee will work)
11-16-2022, 01:59 AM
#83
Thank you Ben and everyone else for chipping in.
After a bit more reading, and through some of the descriptions in speedo solutions' KESSY service
Remanufacture applies to the Proximity system components within the Kessy module, often resulting in no start when the proximity system is used to unlock the vehicle and related "288 - Steering Lock Actuator (N360) - "IMPLAUSIBLE" Fault within the Kessy module.
I think this is the rare occasion that KESSY is the culprit (I am just guessing here), as you often see from forum that one or two odd people with 0288 error and the simple MOSFET / HALL sensor / Motor replacement won't fix.
Biggest tell I think is that I never really get this steering fault on dash + now that I have removed the ELV, upon opening the door, steering lock fault pops up, which is quite different to what the others are seeing partly due to the proximity key.
Now my options are either send whole set up to a specialist to trouble shoot or perhaps get a new KESSY (not guarantee will work)
After a bit more reading, and through some of the descriptions in speedo solutions' KESSY service
Remanufacture applies to the Proximity system components within the Kessy module, often resulting in no start when the proximity system is used to unlock the vehicle and related "288 - Steering Lock Actuator (N360) - "IMPLAUSIBLE" Fault within the Kessy module.
I think this is the rare occasion that KESSY is the culprit (I am just guessing here), as you often see from forum that one or two odd people with 0288 error and the simple MOSFET / HALL sensor / Motor replacement won't fix.
Biggest tell I think is that I never really get this steering fault on dash + now that I have removed the ELV, upon opening the door, steering lock fault pops up, which is quite different to what the others are seeing partly due to the proximity key.
Now my options are either send whole set up to a specialist to trouble shoot or perhaps get a new KESSY (not guarantee will work)
11-17-2022, 04:59 PM
#84
Car is finally fixed, after a long chat with Tom from speedo solutions~
Turns out it wasn't the issue with the ELV, well now it's on emulator, I guess one future issue resolved in advance.
for MY08 Cayenne with proximity keys, this particular issue lies within the KESSY module where it goes out of sycn with the ELV, NO ERROR on dash and scanner will show 0288 steering column lock error, but if you have a ross tech cable it will call out - 00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Implausible signal. according to Tom, this usually happens to MY08 Cayenne that has proximity key with a particular serial KESSY. Now the usual fix is power cycle the car or simply remove the fuse for KESSY for 30mins, this will allows the 2 modules to resync properly. However it didn't work for me the first time. My gut feel is it has something to do with the proximity key in pocket which triggers the KESSY to ELV check too early and not allowing it to resync ~ (just guessing here)
I end up doing the following, a lot of the steps are useless i think, but I want to cut out some variables to avoid needing to go through the cycle again.
ELV is removed from car at this point
1. Remove kessy fuse (41 - Right side) / power out for 1hr
2. Plug ELV in socket and leave door open (I notice that every time door is opened, it triggers Kessy to talk to ELV when I had the ELV unplugged and shows error on dash)
3. Put fuse 41 back in
4. Try start car with dummy key, with proximity key away from car, at this point it’s showing no key found
5. Bring proximity key and try start car with dummy key, still doesn’t work
6. Remove dummy key and try start car with real key, it works from this point
I really hope this will help some people out there, also thank you Ben and the rest of the forum who posted their steps trouble shoots etc
Turns out it wasn't the issue with the ELV, well now it's on emulator, I guess one future issue resolved in advance.
for MY08 Cayenne with proximity keys, this particular issue lies within the KESSY module where it goes out of sycn with the ELV, NO ERROR on dash and scanner will show 0288 steering column lock error, but if you have a ross tech cable it will call out - 00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Implausible signal. according to Tom, this usually happens to MY08 Cayenne that has proximity key with a particular serial KESSY. Now the usual fix is power cycle the car or simply remove the fuse for KESSY for 30mins, this will allows the 2 modules to resync properly. However it didn't work for me the first time. My gut feel is it has something to do with the proximity key in pocket which triggers the KESSY to ELV check too early and not allowing it to resync ~ (just guessing here)
I end up doing the following, a lot of the steps are useless i think, but I want to cut out some variables to avoid needing to go through the cycle again.
ELV is removed from car at this point
1. Remove kessy fuse (41 - Right side) / power out for 1hr
2. Plug ELV in socket and leave door open (I notice that every time door is opened, it triggers Kessy to talk to ELV when I had the ELV unplugged and shows error on dash)
3. Put fuse 41 back in
4. Try start car with dummy key, with proximity key away from car, at this point it’s showing no key found
5. Bring proximity key and try start car with dummy key, still doesn’t work
6. Remove dummy key and try start car with real key, it works from this point
I really hope this will help some people out there, also thank you Ben and the rest of the forum who posted their steps trouble shoots etc
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11-17-2022, 05:32 PM
#85
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Glad you got it fixed and great info along the way. As I posted a while back, seems like this is usually a KESSY issue. Makes me kind of glad the one I bought didn't get equipped with this option.
11-17-2022, 05:55 PM
#86
what was confusing to trouble shoot was that the scanner error shows up as 0288 steering column lock has led me down the wrong path.
main symptom was no errors on dash and piwis or VCDS will show 0288 steering column lock implausible
11-17-2022, 05:59 PM
#87
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yes it is a Kessy issue and apparently this particular one only happens to MY08 with proximity key, I think it has something to do with the latency value in the Kessy with proximity module. I realized the issue potentially is not with ELV when new ELV emulator had the same symptoms
what was confusing to trouble shoot was that the scanner error shows up as 0288 steering column lock has led me down the wrong path.
main symptom was no errors on dash and piwis or VCDS will show 0288 steering column lock implausible
what was confusing to trouble shoot was that the scanner error shows up as 0288 steering column lock has led me down the wrong path.
main symptom was no errors on dash and piwis or VCDS will show 0288 steering column lock implausible
11-17-2022, 09:16 PM
#88
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): No Signal
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Implausible signal <------------------- this is when it's the KESSY issue, the rest most likely are ELV issues
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Open Circuit
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360):Open Circuit / Short to ground
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Open Circuit / Short to positive
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Electrical fault in Circuit
00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator (N360): Defective
11-17-2022, 11:35 PM
#89
Good catch! Now I remembered when I was fixing the ELV by replacing with either a donor unit or the emulator, I did remove the dummy key and used the actual key. The dummy key requires you to turn to trigger the ELV unlock. Whereas the actual key unlocks when you slot in the key. Maybe by slotting in the actual key the system kinda resyncs?
it would make sense the sync is whether the KESSY and the ELV is in sync on the locked or unlocked state. Just my opinion.
it would make sense the sync is whether the KESSY and the ELV is in sync on the locked or unlocked state. Just my opinion.
Last edited by Ben Tan; 11-17-2022 at 11:36 PM.
11-18-2022, 03:45 AM
#90
Good catch! Now I remembered when I was fixing the ELV by replacing with either a donor unit or the emulator, I did remove the dummy key and used the actual key. The dummy key requires you to turn to trigger the ELV unlock. Whereas the actual key unlocks when you slot in the key. Maybe by slotting in the actual key the system kinda resyncs?
it would make sense the sync is whether the KESSY and the ELV is in sync on the locked or unlocked state. Just my opinion.
it would make sense the sync is whether the KESSY and the ELV is in sync on the locked or unlocked state. Just my opinion.
By leaving the key in distance essentially delays this process, which I felt has given the car the opportunity to properly sync upon plugging the key in.
I am just trying to leave a trail here so someone else could benefit. loving the ELV emulator tho, feel that don't have to worry about the lock anymore.