Is Cayenne maintenance too much to handle?
08-28-2017, 10:40 PM
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How many listings have you seen with a shot of the factory window sticker?
A classic indicator of what it will cost to fix, when (not if) it breaks.
If you could locate a Gen I Cayenne which never had fluid leak out or water leak in and lived in a warm climate all its life it would be one to consider purchasing.
Not knowing this for certain a Cayenne that will transfer title for $1 is the only one to consider. IMO
A classic indicator of what it will cost to fix, when (not if) it breaks.
If you could locate a Gen I Cayenne which never had fluid leak out or water leak in and lived in a warm climate all its life it would be one to consider purchasing.
Not knowing this for certain a Cayenne that will transfer title for $1 is the only one to consider. IMO
08-29-2017, 04:15 PM
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My '06 V6 has been pretty much bullet proof. 150k miles.
08-29-2017, 10:12 PM
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Holy dead thread revival Batman! 
I think this sets a recent record - 10 years!
I'd suggest looking at the stickies. Much is explained there. Good used Cayennes aren't a scarce item, but neglected and costly ones also are out there - dragging down the used market prices.
These were expensive vehicles new. They remain expensive vehicles when it comes to repairs. Repairs and parts prices don't depreciate like the selling prices do. Even regular wear items like brakes and tires are $$$.
Porsche made a lot of Cayennes - lots and lots and lots more than any other model they've ever made of any vehicle - so you'll see what appears to be a lot of Cayennes for sale, but compared to the number in existence - the number for sale isn't all that great.
As far as "buyers market"? Yes - if you're willing to go out on a limb for one that has no service history, multiple prior owners who may have neglected it, and unaddressed issues. The smart buyer reads our stickies and goes out forewarned as to issues that could be costly. Not so much for good ones with known service histories that are well maintained.
I think this sets a recent record - 10 years!I'd suggest looking at the stickies. Much is explained there. Good used Cayennes aren't a scarce item, but neglected and costly ones also are out there - dragging down the used market prices.
These were expensive vehicles new. They remain expensive vehicles when it comes to repairs. Repairs and parts prices don't depreciate like the selling prices do. Even regular wear items like brakes and tires are $$$.
Porsche made a lot of Cayennes - lots and lots and lots more than any other model they've ever made of any vehicle - so you'll see what appears to be a lot of Cayennes for sale, but compared to the number in existence - the number for sale isn't all that great.
As far as "buyers market"? Yes - if you're willing to go out on a limb for one that has no service history, multiple prior owners who may have neglected it, and unaddressed issues. The smart buyer reads our stickies and goes out forewarned as to issues that could be costly. Not so much for good ones with known service histories that are well maintained.
08-29-2017, 11:20 PM
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It can be Love-Hate ride.
It drives nice when it runs and feels almost invincible in the rain, but...
These are getting old and with any complex old vehicle, problems can be daunting and expensive.
Cayenne does not embrace the KISS principle.
Other things with the 06 that I find irritating are:
Fit & Finish is sub-par for such a vehicle. My interior plastic is painted gray!
Ergonomics are poor. Porsche really needed some avionic human factor guys. The side view mirror controls are beyond arm's length, so you need to lean forward to adjust the mirrors, then sit back to see if they are right.
The memory seat buttons are hidden on the side of the seat. You can't feel any difference from one button to the next and must open the door to find the right button.
The window controls are too easily activated on the arm wrests.
Plenty of 12-Volt power outlets everywhere but where you need them.
Steering wheel is large and clunky. Again, the buttons are painted plastic and the paint wears and chips off.
Rear cup holder much to fragile.
Interior and some exterior trim breaks off. Plastic gets brittle with age, so the older models have more problems with trim pieces and removing them to service the vehicle can lead to breakage.
Lastly, oil changes on the V6 is absolutely insane. You will be drier standing under a gushing Texas oil well than pulling the oil filter on a Cayenne.
It drives nice when it runs and feels almost invincible in the rain, but...
These are getting old and with any complex old vehicle, problems can be daunting and expensive.
Cayenne does not embrace the KISS principle.
Other things with the 06 that I find irritating are:
Fit & Finish is sub-par for such a vehicle. My interior plastic is painted gray!
Ergonomics are poor. Porsche really needed some avionic human factor guys. The side view mirror controls are beyond arm's length, so you need to lean forward to adjust the mirrors, then sit back to see if they are right.
The memory seat buttons are hidden on the side of the seat. You can't feel any difference from one button to the next and must open the door to find the right button.
The window controls are too easily activated on the arm wrests.
Plenty of 12-Volt power outlets everywhere but where you need them.
Steering wheel is large and clunky. Again, the buttons are painted plastic and the paint wears and chips off.
Rear cup holder much to fragile.
Interior and some exterior trim breaks off. Plastic gets brittle with age, so the older models have more problems with trim pieces and removing them to service the vehicle can lead to breakage.
Lastly, oil changes on the V6 is absolutely insane. You will be drier standing under a gushing Texas oil well than pulling the oil filter on a Cayenne.
08-30-2017, 03:24 PM
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After much reading, I can understand why my original inquiry about purchasing a used Cayenne might cause the upward rolling of eyes,�� or "ok, here we go..." I like to peruse owners forums because I believe the best consumer ratings come from the owners. I did my own auto repairs for many years, except for automatic transmissions. I now believe to go and buy a used Cayenne, I'd need to single, 30 years younger, and living off a trust fund. ��
08-31-2017, 08:35 AM
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I think the great irony is that the original poster was concerned about the maint costs on a NEW Cayenne, as we debate the merits of owning a decade plus old version.
Not much less to maintain today than when new and almost certainly a LOT more is required as they age.
Not much less to maintain today than when new and almost certainly a LOT more is required as they age.
08-31-2017, 06:27 PM
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08-31-2017, 07:11 PM
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After much reading, I can understand why my original inquiry about purchasing a used Cayenne might cause the upward rolling of eyes,�� or "ok, here we go..." I like to peruse owners forums because I believe the best consumer ratings come from the owners. I did my own auto repairs for many years, except for automatic transmissions. I now believe to go and buy a used Cayenne, I'd need to single, 30 years younger, and living off a trust fund. ��
I do my own work, and while owning mine hasn't been cheap, it's not all that bad. Parts are not cheap, which kinda goes along with the fact that the car was $90k back in 05 when new.
I've seen it suggested to plan on ~$2k per year for maintenance, if you do your own work. I think that's a pretty good "ballpark".
Any 10 year old, 100k mile car will need to be taken care of. Stuff's going to break. But don't let the horror stories scare you away. Keep in mind that all the problems show up here. But not all the cars have all the problems. And there are some pretty ingenious fixes that are on here.
The "love/hate" is fairly true. For me, it's been a lot more love than hate though. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat.
08-31-2017, 08:35 PM
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Well, considering the thread was started in 07, the "new" one the OP may or may not have gotten will new be a decade old.
I don't agree with that assessment. I'm single, but haven't been 30 for a while, and I work for a living. Nowhere near rich.
I do my own work, and while owning mine hasn't been cheap, it's not all that bad. Parts are not cheap, which kinda goes along with the fact that the car was $90k back in 05 when new.
I've seen it suggested to plan on ~$2k per year for maintenance, if you do your own work. I think that's a pretty good "ballpark".
Any 10 year old, 100k mile car will need to be taken care of. Stuff's going to break. But don't let the horror stories scare you away. Keep in mind that all the problems show up here. But not all the cars have all the problems. And there are some pretty ingenious fixes that are on here.
The "love/hate" is fairly true. For me, it's been a lot more love than hate though. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat.
I don't agree with that assessment. I'm single, but haven't been 30 for a while, and I work for a living. Nowhere near rich.
I do my own work, and while owning mine hasn't been cheap, it's not all that bad. Parts are not cheap, which kinda goes along with the fact that the car was $90k back in 05 when new.
I've seen it suggested to plan on ~$2k per year for maintenance, if you do your own work. I think that's a pretty good "ballpark".
Any 10 year old, 100k mile car will need to be taken care of. Stuff's going to break. But don't let the horror stories scare you away. Keep in mind that all the problems show up here. But not all the cars have all the problems. And there are some pretty ingenious fixes that are on here.
The "love/hate" is fairly true. For me, it's been a lot more love than hate though. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat.
Now, the Cayenne is a sample size of one for me. Your expenses may vary.
I just wish it was as reliable and trouble free as the other cars I have had through the years.
However, as my wife just pointed out, despite its cascade of faults along the way, it did get us back from a 1,600 mile trip.
And Joe, you are correct about there being a great deal of wisdom here. Couldn't/wouldn't have done it without everyone's help!
09-01-2017, 09:23 AM
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09-01-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nodoors
^^^^
LOL, just like the mpg question!
LOL, just like the mpg question!
09-05-2017, 02:02 PM
#30
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See my sig. Vehicle #3 on that list was a maintenance Soap Opera. Almost every CEL I got on that thing led to a stranded, tow-me-away breakdown. I finally had to STOP that madness... after spending 2x the worth of the car. By comparison, both Cayennes are tame.
