Is Cayenne maintenance too much to handle?
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Is Cayenne maintenance too much to handle?
I am really new to the world of Porsche and am looking at getting either a new '06 Titanium Cayenne or a '08 Tiptronic Cayenne. I have heard a lot about huge manintenance costs especially on pre-06 Cayennes. Is this true even for the '06 or '08 models? I'm looking at getting a relatively maintenance free car, apart from the required service schedules.
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My 2004 Turbo (albeit maybe the only one on this board) has been GREAT. 109,000 miles and the only out of pocket, not expected costs were a water pump, a cardan shaft and coil packs, maybe $2500-$3000 total, not bad when you figure all the things that could go wrong.
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Originally Posted by porsche_newbie
I am really new to the world of Porsche and am looking at getting either a new '06 Titanium Cayenne or a '08 Tiptronic Cayenne. I have heard a lot about huge manintenance costs especially on pre-06 Cayennes. Is this true even for the '06 or '08 models? I'm looking at getting a relatively maintenance free car, apart from the required service schedules.
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Originally Posted by T2
My 2004 Turbo (albeit maybe the only one on this board) has been GREAT. 109,000 miles and the only out of pocket, not expected costs were a water pump, a cardan shaft and coil packs, maybe $2500-$3000 total, not bad when you figure all the things that could go wrong.
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Have an '04 w/38,000 miles and no problems at all. Only $ spent have been on routine maintance. Good luck in your purchase. I would think the '06 would get you more for the money.
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to be the wet blanket here....
running one of these without warranty is... an interesting risk. a new transmission is 17-19k, brakes run well over 1k and they are not the bad things. since most of this car is controlled by multiple computers, and since "open source" is not in porsche's lexicon, you had better be bloody sure you have a VERY good dealer handy. having a 3rd party work on one after the warranty is up is a questionable venture, due to the computer and network issues.
this is not a problem i have heard of with toyota, honda, etc, but instead seems to be one associated with german cars. mercedes has had alot of trouble in this area, and i have heard of problems with BMW as well.
for me, it wasn't worth it. 5 times in the shop in 40k, 4 of them being for the transmission, which they were never able to fix. being pushed toward the end of the warranty with numerous resets, and no action... now if i can just force porshe to abide by the lemon law arbitration i won, i can move on.
in your case, the best option if you are determined on this particular form of potlach, would seem to be to look on autotrader for one of the used '06's, with under 1k miles on it, at a dealer. there are a number of them since the 06 dump. since the dealer took it off of his new inventory at the right time (hopefully), the price should be good, and since you are buying a "used" car from the dealer you can get the CPO warranty, which should take you to 100k, without the issue Madfox got with his aftermarket warranty company going bust. however, you should note that the market is just now adjusting to the glut of 06's that were dumped and the depreciation is going to be fierce.
good luck, mr. phelps.
this is not a problem i have heard of with toyota, honda, etc, but instead seems to be one associated with german cars. mercedes has had alot of trouble in this area, and i have heard of problems with BMW as well.
for me, it wasn't worth it. 5 times in the shop in 40k, 4 of them being for the transmission, which they were never able to fix. being pushed toward the end of the warranty with numerous resets, and no action... now if i can just force porshe to abide by the lemon law arbitration i won, i can move on.
in your case, the best option if you are determined on this particular form of potlach, would seem to be to look on autotrader for one of the used '06's, with under 1k miles on it, at a dealer. there are a number of them since the 06 dump. since the dealer took it off of his new inventory at the right time (hopefully), the price should be good, and since you are buying a "used" car from the dealer you can get the CPO warranty, which should take you to 100k, without the issue Madfox got with his aftermarket warranty company going bust. however, you should note that the market is just now adjusting to the glut of 06's that were dumped and the depreciation is going to be fierce.
good luck, mr. phelps.
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Originally Posted by droptop
.......... and since you are buying a "used" car from the dealer you can get the CPO warranty, which should take you to 100k, without the issue Madfox got with his aftermarket warranty company going bust.
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There are many used Cayennes for sale in my area...why? Low mileage, nice condition. It appear's to be a buyer's market. Is Cayenne ownership that bad? I'm interested as an enthusiast, but wary.
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I'd suggest looking at the stickies. Much is explained there. Good used Cayennes aren't a scarce item, but neglected and costly ones also are out there - dragging down the used market prices.
These were expensive vehicles new. They remain expensive vehicles when it comes to repairs. Repairs and parts prices don't depreciate like the selling prices do. Even regular wear items like brakes and tires are $$$.
Porsche made a lot of Cayennes - lots and lots and lots more than any other model they've ever made of any vehicle - so you'll see what appears to be a lot of Cayennes for sale, but compared to the number in existence - the number for sale isn't all that great.
As far as "buyers market"? Yes - if you're willing to go out on a limb for one that has no service history, multiple prior owners who may have neglected it, and unaddressed issues. The smart buyer reads our stickies and goes out forewarned as to issues that could be costly. Not so much for good ones with known service histories that are well maintained.
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Holy dead thread revival Batman! I think this sets a recent record - 10 years!
I'd suggest looking at the stickies. Much is explained there. Good used Cayennes aren't a scarce item, but neglected and costly ones also are out there - dragging down the used market prices.
These were expensive vehicles new. They remain expensive vehicles when it comes to repairs. Repairs and parts prices don't depreciate like the selling prices do. Even regular wear items like brakes and tires are $$$.
Porsche made a lot of Cayennes - lots and lots and lots more than any other model they've ever made of any vehicle - so you'll see what appears to be a lot of Cayennes for sale, but compared to the number in existence - the number for sale isn't all that great.
As far as "buyers market"? Yes - if you're willing to go out on a limb for one that has no service history, multiple prior owners who may have neglected it, and unaddressed issues. The smart buyer reads our stickies and goes out forewarned as to issues that could be costly. Not so much for good ones with known service histories that are well maintained.
I'd suggest looking at the stickies. Much is explained there. Good used Cayennes aren't a scarce item, but neglected and costly ones also are out there - dragging down the used market prices.
These were expensive vehicles new. They remain expensive vehicles when it comes to repairs. Repairs and parts prices don't depreciate like the selling prices do. Even regular wear items like brakes and tires are $$$.
Porsche made a lot of Cayennes - lots and lots and lots more than any other model they've ever made of any vehicle - so you'll see what appears to be a lot of Cayennes for sale, but compared to the number in existence - the number for sale isn't all that great.
As far as "buyers market"? Yes - if you're willing to go out on a limb for one that has no service history, multiple prior owners who may have neglected it, and unaddressed issues. The smart buyer reads our stickies and goes out forewarned as to issues that could be costly. Not so much for good ones with known service histories that are well maintained.
Cheers,
TomF
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I could see an enterprise being made of snatching up all the Cayenne one could and parting them out and making complete vehicles for sale. Of course this would include an engine program and a performance division!
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There certainly are cases where the parts are worth more than the whole. The early Cayennes are reaching that point. It has to be a vehicle where the engine/transmission are good since they'll be the big money items that pay for buying it. Once those are sold and costs are covered - the rest of the part-out is pure profit. Front end bodywork can also go for $$ since that's the part that is most often damaged on wrecked vehicles that are totaled and parted out.
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There certainly are cases where the parts are worth more than the whole. The early Cayennes are reaching that point. It has to be a vehicle where the engine/transmission are good since they'll be the big money items that pay for buying it. Once those are sold and costs are covered - the rest of the part-out is pure profit. Front end bodywork can also go for $$ since that's the part that is most often damaged on wrecked vehicles that are totaled and parted out.
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How many listings have you seen with a shot of the factory window sticker?
A classic indicator of what it will cost to fix, when (not if) it breaks.
If you could locate a Gen I Cayenne which never had fluid leak out or water leak in and lived in a warm climate all its life it would be one to consider purchasing.
Not knowing this for certain a Cayenne that will transfer title for $1 is the only one to consider. IMO
A classic indicator of what it will cost to fix, when (not if) it breaks.
If you could locate a Gen I Cayenne which never had fluid leak out or water leak in and lived in a warm climate all its life it would be one to consider purchasing.
Not knowing this for certain a Cayenne that will transfer title for $1 is the only one to consider. IMO