I got a 957 cayenne 5 years ago and love it, I have only had to do the consumables, tires/oil/brakes/filters, and a driveshaft. This has been the most reliable auto I have ever owned. I owned a 911 and found it reliable and easy to maintain.

I wanted to buy another 911 but my wife just told me that we are expecting twins. I could manage a 911 with a single baby but two reverse child seat nixes it. 1st gen Panamera is the next thing on my mind. Can I expect the same running costs and reliability as my cayenne? Is it apples to apples porsche ownership? Also I am looking for a 1st gen panamera, 2010-16, any engine.

 

ah yeah no

 

Should be the same motor, but I'd look at a Macan GTS. The Panameras just aren't pretty and why they have very poor resale value. Porsche should have made it look like the Mission E / Taycan when the redisgned it and then they would have had something.

 

The PDK scares me else I’d seriously consider getting one.

 

Same reason we didn't buy one when the timing with the kids would have been right. Now they both drive and have their own cars so no longer need one that size.

 

All in the eye of the beholder. If I didn't need an SUV for towing and winter weather where I live, I'd take a Panamera over a Cayenne or Macan any day.

 

I think the 970 is an attractive car and it is very comfortable. It also has great interior room. We've done one big summer road trip and the rear seats have amazing room for kids. Rear cargo area isn't as good as a Cayenne, but unless you're taking huge suitcases it is perfectly cromulent. We used soft sided bags on our big trip. Our 957 had the basic memory seats whereas my Panamera has the 18-way seats. I am able to adjust them to fit me perfectly. That wasn't possible in the old Cayenne. The Panamera is a little better on fuel consumption than a 957, unless your inner child gets the better of you and you keep putting your foot into it. I thought our Cayenne had decent acceleration for an SUV. But put your foot down in my Turbo and it is like going to warp speed. Since we replaced our 957 with a 9Y0, I am not concerned about driving my Panamera during the winters, but we've had very mild winters the past few years so it hasn't really been an issue.

As far as maintenance and upkeep, I bought the Panamera in Jan of '22 from a dealership. They had some of the maintenance history but it wasn't complete. There were a couple things not perfect with the car, primarily that the rear power hatch struts were inop. After learning how much it costs to get those replaced I decided I can handle opening and closing the hatch by hand. I have had my front lower control arms replaced. I'll need to replace rear sway bar bushings sometime in the near future. The previous owner had replaced all the air suspension so I dodged that bullet for the time being, though I did have to get a ride height sensor replaced last fall. There is a fuel vapor purge valve that I should replace because I don't know if it is original and if it fails, I could have an explosion in the intake. Part is cheap and it is something that shouldn't take very long to DIY. Aside from the minor gripe of the rear hatch, my only other real complaint is the lack of availability from Porsche for PCCM+ upgrade. I would really like to have modern PCM functions. I know there are modules some people are buying and retrofitting but I do not feel comfortable taking apart my dashboard in order to swap out a motherboard in the PCM and so far there are no reputable car audio shops around me who are willing to try. Our 9Y0 has Carplay and Android Auto and that is really convenient. I'd like that in my Panamera. Other than those few things, it has been a rock solid car. Just turned over 86k miles this week. I have a good indy shop, so when it is time for PDK + diff servicing, I won't have to go to the dealer. Yes, these things can get expensive to repair. I do not have an aftermarket warranty, but my wife is aware that there are some expenses on the horizon and we budget accordingly. Based on other owners' experiences, as long as you are dutiful with maintenance these vehicles should run for a long time, just like a Cayenne.

 

Changing the HPFP on a Panny makes changing one on a 957 CTTS+ look easy 😝

 

I've seen way too many Panameras on fire on the side of highways for me to ever consider one; big body Benz all day there

 

Really? Please back this up...

 

Nothing very scientific, but the 4-5x in life I've seen Car-BQs on the interstates, 3-4 were Panameras. And that's just my own observations. The few others I know when mentioning Car-BQs, have seen the same - Don't know why, just is. Had to be a known issue with something I'd imagine, way too many to stand out like that.

 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...ver-fire-risk/

 

Roger that, I was thinking it was the earliest Gen1 versions but maybe not; but good to know I wasn't totally off base for once!

 

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of this issue, but now am educated!