2009 GTS with a manual
#1
2009 GTS with a manual
Hello all,
Like the title states, I'm looking at a 2009 GTS Cayenne that has the elusive 6 speed manual. Car looks to be in pretty good condition, has some accident history but nothing structural. It has about 135,000 miles on it, and I would just look to drive it into the ground as our second vehicle and sell my 2011 Cayenne and maybe tow a bit with it. Can pick it up cheap (10k usd) ish.
I am trying to learn more about these years, was 2009 the first year with Bluetooth? It appears that the 2009 have a different version of PCM. Anything else to look out for other then the obvious stuff we all know about?
Cheers, Ted
Like the title states, I'm looking at a 2009 GTS Cayenne that has the elusive 6 speed manual. Car looks to be in pretty good condition, has some accident history but nothing structural. It has about 135,000 miles on it, and I would just look to drive it into the ground as our second vehicle and sell my 2011 Cayenne and maybe tow a bit with it. Can pick it up cheap (10k usd) ish.
I am trying to learn more about these years, was 2009 the first year with Bluetooth? It appears that the 2009 have a different version of PCM. Anything else to look out for other then the obvious stuff we all know about?
Cheers, Ted
#2
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Aside from the transmission all else is the same. My 2009 GTS is not equipped with Bluetooth.
The GTS is factory equipped with sport exhaust. Its the best sounding stock suv on the road IMO.
Price sounds great provided the clutch is in good condition. I recall a post that P charged $4K, don't know what was included in that price.
The GTS is factory equipped with sport exhaust. Its the best sounding stock suv on the road IMO.
Price sounds great provided the clutch is in good condition. I recall a post that P charged $4K, don't know what was included in that price.
#3
Can pick it up cheap (10k usd) ish.
Even with some normal maintenance that is a deal.
#4
Thanks for the info guys.
So is a 2009 pretty safe on the bore score issue? Also what are the unique GTS items. Do they have air suspension and sport exhaust standard?
So is a 2009 pretty safe on the bore score issue? Also what are the unique GTS items. Do they have air suspension and sport exhaust standard?
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https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...03-2010-a.html
#6
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What other options...PM sent. Maintenance history is paramount naturally, a few issues with the breed. That selling price is well, well below market. Buy it, buy it now. Or send me the contact info, and I will.
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Yes, 2009 is the first year of the PCM3 that actually does have Bluetooth, but it's for phone conversations only, not streaming audio so it only has that BT profile, If the car has the multi-function audio interface, then you can add streaming bluetooth capability for about $20 from amazon by getting a BT receiver that supports the A2DP streaming profile. You pair that receiver to your phone for the media audio function only, leave the phone calls pairing profile alone, then plug an aux cable from the BT receiver into the AUX jack.
Looks like this and is in the lower section of the center console.
When looking for my Cayenne, I started my search for an 09 GTS with MT too, as I'm a MT guy and thought it would be really cool to have one in our SUV, then made the mistake of driving a Turbo S and now own one of those instead, but the GTS is an awesome car and providing it doesn't have a ton of deferred maintenance, seems like a great deal at that price. If it has PDCC (Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control) you've struck the lottery and won't believe what a 5,000 lb vehicle can drive and handle like.
Find out what engine is in it from the label under the rear floor. Looks like this if it's still there and the engine number is at the top, like mine shown here as 9PA AN1. There was a change in the engine cylinder honing process that seems to have resolved or mostly resolved the bore scoring problem and you can see if that engine is one of the newer ones, like mine is, but there's a whole list of engine #s that have the newer honing process, not just this one. That info is in the bore scoring thread previously referenced.
Good luck and make sure to read the "Buying a 957 Cayenne" buyers guide that's a sticky at the top of this forum to know what to look for during your inspection.
Looks like this and is in the lower section of the center console.
When looking for my Cayenne, I started my search for an 09 GTS with MT too, as I'm a MT guy and thought it would be really cool to have one in our SUV, then made the mistake of driving a Turbo S and now own one of those instead, but the GTS is an awesome car and providing it doesn't have a ton of deferred maintenance, seems like a great deal at that price. If it has PDCC (Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control) you've struck the lottery and won't believe what a 5,000 lb vehicle can drive and handle like.
Find out what engine is in it from the label under the rear floor. Looks like this if it's still there and the engine number is at the top, like mine shown here as 9PA AN1. There was a change in the engine cylinder honing process that seems to have resolved or mostly resolved the bore scoring problem and you can see if that engine is one of the newer ones, like mine is, but there's a whole list of engine #s that have the newer honing process, not just this one. That info is in the bore scoring thread previously referenced.
Good luck and make sure to read the "Buying a 957 Cayenne" buyers guide that's a sticky at the top of this forum to know what to look for during your inspection.
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#8
Took a look at it today. It’s rough. Alcantara is all pillled in the interior. Steering wheel not straight pulled to the right like crazy. Clunk in the front end over bumps. Check engine, PSM and TPMS lights all on. Did a quick 2-3 shift at heavy throttle and clutch just slipped and it didn’t accelerate so clutch is completely done. I’m passing on it. Too bad.
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Took a look at it today. It’s rough. Alcantara is all pillled in the interior. Steering wheel not straight pulled to the right like crazy. Clunk in the front end over bumps. Check engine, PSM and TPMS lights all on. Did a quick 2-3 shift at heavy throttle and clutch just slipped and it didn’t accelerate so clutch is completely done. I’m passing on it. Too bad.
I wonder if every GTS has alcantara seats or if you could opt for a different material. When I was looking at Turbos, I automatically eliminated any of them that didn't have the leather seats, and then the one I bought happened to have the plush leather or ruffled leather or whatever they call it, which is really nice, and I think kind of rare.
#10
That's a shame, probably took a decent hit and damaged some suspension. I ended up with an 08 GTS Auto, as 6MT cars proved near impossible to find, especially in a color that wasn't black or silver (personal preference). A saw a nice one go for $35k at an auction at the time (late 2017) and decided I was not really willing to pay 75% premium for a 6MT.
957 GTS came standard with: Alcantara interior, red brake calipers, body kit w/ the best looking spoiler, sport exhaust, 21" rims, minor lowering, air suspension (standard in US only, optional RoW), minor HP bump over S, and higher ratio final drive (to bump 0-60 under 6sec, ding 1mpg).
957 GTS came standard with: Alcantara interior, red brake calipers, body kit w/ the best looking spoiler, sport exhaust, 21" rims, minor lowering, air suspension (standard in US only, optional RoW), minor HP bump over S, and higher ratio final drive (to bump 0-60 under 6sec, ding 1mpg).
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Sounds like a parts car.
Could be $10K just to get the issues you noticed sorted out.
Could be $10K just to get the issues you noticed sorted out.
#12
#13
Sad... For the right price it may be worth it to repair. Again it is a rare car.
Then again, I'm a self proclaimed greaseball and this would be beyond my comfort level due to the costs involved. A lot of risk for coming out even on resale value.
Hopefully someone will save it vs parts.
Then again, I'm a self proclaimed greaseball and this would be beyond my comfort level due to the costs involved. A lot of risk for coming out even on resale value.
Hopefully someone will save it vs parts.
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