craigg

True enough. One person's opinion - or even two or three - doesn't necessarily define the concept.

The original question to this thread was:

"Will the boxster become the next 944?"

This could either mean: the late, great... or an abandoned orphan (which was the original inference I took - and I think was the intent of the statement).

The more I think about it, there is certainly nothing to complain about in the 944 - or it's subsequent variants to the 968 (a dyslexic 986? ) Therefore, the late great seems to be the right way to go...

I was turned on to Porsche by the 944 (I almost bought an early 924 but didn't like the Audi engine). I still think they look great and am always impressed with how well they perform.

The strange issue in this and similar threads, often incited by 944 folks, predicting (or wishing for?) the imminent demise, or thrashing, of the Boxster, S or not. It doesn't seem to relate true interest in a discussion of merits and areas for improvement, rather, it often goes to an outright "Crap-on". Provocative statements are fine - but they need to have SOME basis more than "I read in a magazine once..."

I also follow the 944, 928 and, naturally, the 996/911 threads and no Boxster owners are seen intentionally pi**ing on their prides and joy.

The Boxster is the current Porsche for the "average" person - produced by a very small, excellent engineering, profitable, and hopefully long lasting firm - a true icon in the Automotive world. Anyone who drives a P car should be glad we are part of a family - and use the Flash whenever possible.

Anyone who doesn't know what this means, say so and we'll explain.

OriginalSterm

My only complain about Boxster owners is their lack (in this specific case) of recognition of other Porsche designs. I was asked at a local Porche Club show by a Boxster owner, what my car was. I said "it's an '84 944". To which he replied, "oh yeah, the VW/Audi thing right?" This lead to a discussion with him telling me about the two Porsche designs, the 911 and Boxster. These were Porsche only two design to this date, not including the SUV that is on the way.

Apparently, the 914, 924, 928, 944, 968, 356, 912,...are not "real" Porsches.

craigg

As a long term Porschephile, I know what you mean. There are clueless people everywhere and since the Boxster is often the first exposure many people get to Porsche-dom, they may not be as tuned in to the history as others. If someone takes the time to come out to a local P CLub, or has bothered to join PCA, it isn't long reading Panorama before that they figure out the long and impressive history of the marque includes many models. Even the 550 Spyder... and more!

At the same time, discussing the merits of each model may not be that interesting to others. That is human nature. 944 owners could care less about the oil-fed cam chain tensioner issue on a 1982 911SC - doesn't make them a bad Porsche owner, per se.

If the Boxster (and the 996) is depreciating at a more rapid rate than it used to - a sign of the economic and political times, I'm afraid - then we should all be concerned because it lowers the value of all models (except maybe the 959 or a really cherry 356 cab...)

We should be teaching each other - and listening - to "get it"!

Silverbullet951

If you boxster owners cannot realize the obviousness of the truth, then it's not our problem, it's your problem. I recall the 944 series cars also being the average persons car when they were introduced. I'm not trying to start anything, I like the boxster, but the boxsters have been decreasing in price. I have seen a few boxsters for sale at around 15K and even less. Just check autotrader. When porsche comes out with an entry level car, for some reason or another, the car doesn't last. It does sell a lot but it doesn't hold its value. I am gladly seeing the value of the 944's finally going up in value. Especially the turbos. These cars last long and they are very durable. I regret to say that I haven't seen any boxsters with a lot of miles before they break down. And if there are, then there are only a few. All I know, is that I don't see good things in the future for the boxster.

craigg

...you Boxster owners? ...not our problem?

Now that I know who is the official spokesperson for all the 944 owners on the planet, it will make things so much easier for "us" Boxster owners.

Keep on howling at the moon, my friend. Someone will notice...eventually.

autobahnNY

this is too funny...enough said.

JustinL

First off, I am an owner of a 944 turbo S and an 87 n/a 944. I actually do really like the boxster, it's just too much coin for a new university grad to throw down for a car. Performance per dollar I would argue that the 944 turbo wins out on the boxster.

As for boxster owners, most give me a wave here in Edmonton (even in my n/a 944). There are exceptions to every rule though; even a few 944 owners won't return a wave. <img border="0" alt="[offtopic]" title="" src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" />

Eventually the Boxster will take the place of the 944: an older porsche with great performance/dollar value.

Sorry for the scatterd post <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />

Justin

John Welch

All I can say is, for me a Boxster will definitely replace the 944 (or 928) in my stable...

Silverbullet951

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by craigg:
<strong>...you Boxster owners? ...not our problem?

Now that I know who is the official spokesperson for all the 944 owners on the planet, it will make things so much easier for "us" Boxster owners.

Keep on howling at the moon, my friend. Someone will notice...eventually.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">That had to be the worst comeback I have ever read. Didn't you read the rest of my post? I don't want to start anything. It's just my opinion and I stated facts about how the boxster is decreasing in price. Is it THAT hard to accept the truth? Damn, you people are touchy.

craigg

...you people?
...touchy?

Hmmmm.

Fishey

as far as cars holding there value I see alot of boxsters these days getting close in price with the more rare turboS and cabriolet.Both of thoughs cars have held value pretty good. Also I would like to note doller for doller and year for year the boxster is falling about the same as the 944's did when they were in production.

Silverbullet951

Fishy, that is the point that I was trying to make. I guess they don't get it.
I have an 88 944 turbo and I see the prices going up for these cars fast. I have seen 87s going for 15 k and higher. I haven't seen one 88 turbo on ebay for a long time. That's good news for me. ;-)

Silverbullet951

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by craigg:
<strong>...you people?
...touchy?

Hmmmm.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Yep, touchy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

adsc4s

I owned a 924 in 1985 as a college student and I thought it was the coolest thing. When I look at "cool" cars available for young adults and people with less disposable income (All of us!), the Boxster is very attractive. Does this mean it will be the next 944? Yes and no IMHO. Yes because it occupies the same hierachical position to the 911 as the 944 did. Both are/were the "affordable" Porsche next to the 911. No because the Boxster has been a category leader since day one with true Porsche engineering to back it up and the 944 started out as a VW (924) with very enemic performance and only improved once 924 owners complained of losing stop light races with Escorts.

Fishey

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