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Old 10-22-2009, 04:35 PM
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Default 986 Boxster S reclassified to C Stock in SCCA autocross

http://scca.com/documents/Fastrack/0...strack-nov.pdf

The SEB has recommended a restructuring of the Stock classes to the BoD. This restructuring combines the old B Stock and C Stock classes into one class, C Stock. It also creates a new "tweener" class between the old Super Stock and A Stock (the tweener class becomes A Stock while the old A Stock becomes B Stock).

The surprising thing in all of this is that, instead of simply being relabeled as B Stock along with the rest of the former A Stock cars, all of the 986 Boxsters and Boxster S's have been moved to the new C Stock.

Given that the Boxster S was reasonably competitive in the old A Stock, it may very well be an overdog in the new C Stock. I'm beginning to regret selling mine.
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False alarm -- turns out it was a typo. The base 986 *is* being moved to C Stock, though, and even it may be an overdog there.
Old 10-22-2009, 07:30 PM
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The SAC had put a hold on the S, but it looks like the SEB did over ride
their proposals. the Bod usually just rubber stamps the SEB proposal.

I think it would be good for the class. I don't think it is a Typo. do you have proof that it was.

thanks Rob
Old 10-22-2009, 08:24 PM
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This is why I gave up trying to buy a car based on what was competitive in an SCCA class.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out though. Might upset a lot of miata owners...also known as the entire SCCA.
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If they drop the 986S low enough, I won't even have to remove my subwoofer or heated motorized seats to be a nationally competitive car!
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Originally Posted by grey ghost
I don't think it is a Typo. do you have proof that it was.
Members of both the SEB and the SAC have posted on other forums saying that it was a typo, and I was told directly by a member of the SAC that it was as well.
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The SAC did NOT recommend the S. It is a typo. The 986 will be extremely competitive in the new C stock. Get a '99 2.5 with M030 and you'll have a great car for the class.

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You focus on the Boxter but what about the base (2.9) Cayman?
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It looks like the 2.7 Cayman moves from AS to BS along with almost every other car in AS. All it means is that I need to get a new letter for the side of my car. I don't see any mention of 09+ Caymans. I don't think they are different enough from the 08s to be in a different class.

It also looks like the Cayman S is now a little more competitive since it is getting moved to AS and that class is getting cleaned out. It's against a much smaller pool of cars.
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Originally Posted by jmazz
It looks like the 2.7 Cayman moves from AS to BS along with almost every other car in AS. All it means is that I need to get a new letter for the side of my car. I don't see any mention of 09+ Caymans. I don't think they are different enough from the 08s to be in a different class.

It also looks like the Cayman S is now a little more competitive since it is getting moved to AS and that class is getting cleaned out. It's against a much smaller pool of cars.
If they are not moving the new base Cayman but moving the "S" from Super stock to stock this will significantly handicap the base Cayman as it has 55 hp less hp but in the same body also smaller brakes
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Originally Posted by 70RSR
The SAC did NOT recommend the S. It is a typo. The 986 will be extremely competitive in the new C stock. Get a '99 2.5 with M030 and you'll have a great car for the class.
Forget the '99 -- get an '03 or '04, which has another 27 horses over the '99.

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It also looks like the Cayman S is now a little more competitive since it is getting moved to AS and that class is getting cleaned out. It's against a much smaller pool of cars.
Competitiveness isn't a function of how many distinct models are eligible for that class, but rather what the fastest of those cars are. The Cayman S should fare much better in the new A Stock than it did in the old Super Stock because the new AS's cars are slower than the old SS's -- the top dog will likely be the C5 Corvette, which owned Super Stock before the Z06, Elise, and GT3 came along.

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Originally Posted by f4 plt
If they are not moving the new base Cayman but moving the "S" from Super stock to stock this will significantly handicap the base Cayman as it has 55 hp less hp but in the same body also smaller brakes
'05 - '08 base Cayman: AS --> BS
'05 - '08 Cayman S: SS --> AS
'09+ base Cayman: Stays in AS
'09+ Cayman S: Stays in SS

Last edited by PedalFaster; 10-23-2009 at 01:15 PM. Reason: Modified my post when I realized the moves affected the '05 - '08 cars only
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I like the '99 2.5 for better gearing and lighter weight. I don't think a few extra HP is as important. To each his own.

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Originally Posted by 70RSR
I like the '99 2.5 for better gearing and lighter weight. I don't think a few extra HP is as important. To each his own.
If I'm not mistaken, the '99's only 11 pounds lighter than the '03 - '04. Also, while the '97 - '99 cars have a shorter second gear, they also have 0.2 L less displacement and 11 lb. ft. less torque than the '03 - '04 cars. I haven't driven the two vintages back-to-back, but if I recall correctly the car rags all found the later car to be faster to 60 mph despite the gearing disadvantage.
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Since you have the current class rules where is a '83 SC classed? Engine is a 3.0 ltr Thanks


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