Notices
997 Turbo Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cat / Exhaust install QA

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-05-2015, 03:00 PM
  #1  
Ibanezgod
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
Ibanezgod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Fishtown - Philadelphia
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default Cat / Exhaust install QA

Updated

So i have two new cats to be installed. They are the replacements that i received from BBI since the first two went bad prematurely. Been throwing codes 0430 for bank 1 and 2.

Reputable shop quoted me $300-400 for the install. Precision Motorsport in NJ.

They bill at $109/hr so that's pushing 3.5+ hours which seems excessive to me for cat swap. I'm quite handy but haven't worked on exhausts before. Haven't worked on O2 sensors either and not sure if I have to touch those. I have a lift to do the work, just don't want to run into complications.

Wanted the consensus on the rate quoted and complexity to install. I'm usually willing to work on things up to 5/10s difficulty. Nothing too crazy. Seems like a simple unbolt, then slide out the sleeve. However I assume I would need to put grease/sealant at the connection points ?

Attached some photos to provide some background visual.















new cats





Last edited by Ibanezgod; 06-08-2015 at 11:43 AM.
Old 05-05-2015, 04:27 PM
  #2  
ctony66
Racer
 
ctony66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NY
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I would save the cash and do it yourself. Just spray the hardware a few times first. It takes time to do but its not that difficult. Just some nuts and bolts. You may even get away without removing the bumper.
Cheers
Old 05-05-2015, 04:47 PM
  #3  
therock88
Pro
 
therock88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 705
Received 14 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

The cost/quote seems about right. But as suggested, if you like to tinker with it and have the time, you could do it yourself. Soak the fasteners very well for a day or two at least with PB Blaster or similar.
Then take your time pulling them off and you should be fine...

Good luck,
DC
Old 05-05-2015, 09:43 PM
  #4  
TT Surgeon
Race Director
 
TT Surgeon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: KC ex pat marooned in NY
Posts: 13,005
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Agree, especially with a lift, you gotta go for it!
Old 05-05-2015, 10:25 PM
  #5  
saabin
Rennlist Member
 
saabin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 2,596
Likes: 0
Received 556 Likes on 365 Posts
Default

I agree, with a lift its not bad at all. Pre-soak the nuts like others suggested..

(Of course, all of those who are recommending him to DIY have put our own exhausts on before..)
Old 05-05-2015, 11:41 PM
  #6  
HkPlinker
Three Wheelin'
 
HkPlinker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern Mississippi
Posts: 1,300
Received 141 Likes on 107 Posts
Default

Unless you can get a written 12 month installation warrantee . . . .
Old 05-06-2015, 03:42 PM
  #7  
PelicanParts.com
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
PelicanParts.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 4,027
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ibanezgod
Reputable shop quoted me $300-400 for the install. Precision Motorsport in NJ.

They bill at $109/hr so that's pushing 3.5+ hours which seems excessive to me for cat swap.

Wanted the consensus on the rate quoted and complexity to install. I'm usually willing to work on things up to 5/10s difficulty. Nothing too crazy. Seems like a simple unbolt, then slide out the sleeve. However I assume I would need to put grease/sealant at the connection points ?
Shops have book times that they go by and even if it doesn't take that long, that is the time they will always quote. Since technicians are paid by the hours they flag, they will learn to get jobs done faster than it says it "should" take in order to flag more hours in a day to make more money. It's inevitable, but thankfully DIY is where the money will be saved. Typically, about $350 for a labor rate of that is what I see often for exhaust installs.

If you think you're DIY capable and are wanting to work on the car yourself, this install should be a good start!

-Luccia
__________________
Your Trusted Source For DIY and Parts
FREE SHIPPING over $99 click here
Porsche Parts | DIY Tech Articles | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Promos
888.280.7799 | 6am - 5pm PST
Old 05-08-2015, 02:44 AM
  #8  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,689
Received 1,840 Likes on 1,121 Posts
Default

Don't break that rusty stud off on the turbo. Kroil or pbblaster lots of it and as said let it soak
Old 05-10-2015, 09:15 AM
  #9  
atcbi5
Banned
 
atcbi5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,988
Likes: 0
Received 106 Likes on 83 Posts
Default

PB blaster!!!! I let mine set for a few days had no problem. Once in a while a product comes along and the results are amazing! PB blaster is such a product.
Old 05-10-2015, 01:05 PM
  #10  
TT Surgeon
Race Director
 
TT Surgeon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: KC ex pat marooned in NY
Posts: 13,005
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Pbb or wd40, both work great.
Old 05-10-2015, 10:55 PM
  #11  
Ibanezgod
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
Ibanezgod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Fishtown - Philadelphia
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by saabin
I agree, with a lift its not bad at all. Pre-soak the nuts like others suggested.. (Of course, all of those who are recommending him to DIY have put our own exhausts on before..)
Pre soak which nuts? The ones that are coming off?


Originally Posted by Spyerx
Don't break that rusty stud off on the turbo. Kroil or pbblaster lots of it and as said let it soak

Originally Posted by atcbi5
PB blaster!!!! I let mine set for a few days had no problem. Once in a while a product comes along and the results are amazing! PB blaster is such a product.
What is this PB Blaster for? Loosening up the nuts?

Do i need to put grease or some type of anti seize between where the cat bolts on once I get the old one off? Just figured I may need to so something else other than just loosening some nuts and bolts and swapping parts.

Thanks!
Old 05-10-2015, 10:58 PM
  #12  
TT Surgeon
Race Director
 
TT Surgeon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: KC ex pat marooned in NY
Posts: 13,005
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Yes, soak the nuts on the turbo, they tend to corrode and can seize and snap off. Just be careful, you'll be fine.
Old 05-11-2015, 02:06 AM
  #13  
nzskater
Rennlist Member
 
nzskater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Japan 🇯🇵
Posts: 2,877
Received 173 Likes on 113 Posts
Default

And make sure to replace all the studs/nuts with a new set when you do the work. They're cheap, and there's no need to reuse the old ones. Also, you'll find the part numbers for the studs on the page related to the turbos, not the exhaust (pages 58 & 62 in the Euro 997 TT catalogue).
Old 05-11-2015, 11:29 AM
  #14  
Ibanezgod
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
Ibanezgod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Fishtown - Philadelphia
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nzskater
And make sure to replace all the studs/nuts with a new set when you do the work. They're cheap, and there's no need to reuse the old ones. Also, you'll find the part numbers for the studs on the page related to the turbos, not the exhaust (pages 58 & 62 in the Euro 997 TT catalogue).
Thanks I didn't think of that... good point. Will do

I only need 8x #18 and #19 correct? ECS tuning wants $89.36 for 8 nuts and washers LOL, think it's best to just soak the old ones.


Old 05-11-2015, 12:13 PM
  #15  
Quadcammer
Race Director
 
Quadcammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Clifton, NJ
Posts: 15,704
Received 1,442 Likes on 835 Posts
Default

sonnen porsche in cali has the same parts for about $50, but realistically, there should be no need to replace the washers, which are more expensive than the nuts.


Quick Reply: Cat / Exhaust install QA



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:47 PM.