Need some ECU/Tuning advice
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I've been playing with the APR tune on the 997tt I just bought, moving back and forth between the stock and 93 octane profiles. It is pretty amazing what a difference it makes for street driving. It takes it from being really quick to holy cr@p this car is fast! I also know that the previous owner installed it over a year ago and there have been no issues with the stock clutch.
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I also found Protomotive Giac (and on one occasion Evom's) came up as being the problem solvers for certain unsatisfied users of the FVD and ST.
On the other hand I have never heard of a Protomotive Giac or Evoms tune user ever junking their tune out for an FVD, or ST tune. Have you?
On the other hand I have never heard of a Protomotive Giac or Evoms tune user ever junking their tune out for an FVD, or ST tune. Have you?
The Vivid and ST dyno issue was also interesting in another post as ST does have both an engine and chassis dyno that is used.
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Wow Speed... I think you can state the total opposite also as your information isn't accurate...Then again you did state it was what you have been made aware of. Perhaps those people on the other side didn't want to post for reasons of their own and do not know you to fill you in .... They have ALL had their share of cross comparing and fixing.
The Vivid and ST dyno issue was also interesting in another post as ST does have both an engine and chassis dyno that is used.
The Vivid and ST dyno issue was also interesting in another post as ST does have both an engine and chassis dyno that is used.
Also if you feel the advice from my sources is unreliable then why wouldn't you go back to the moderator here who openly stated he found FVD's tune was not to his expectation/satisfaction and refer your questioning to him directly. Same also applies to those few members on 6 who have openly posted saying how they have moved on from the FVD tune to far greener pastures.
I'm not sure why some members here are happy to dismiss my claims so freely without at least approaching those that have openly posted their personal first hand experiences, but my guess is that the current critics and or/shills won't like the responses because it only further strengthens what I've said.
Re the info on the ST dyno, that was told to me on a separate occasion some time back by a highly reputable vendor over there, and had nothing to do with the reporting of the problems with certain tunes. Again if this information given was incorrect please inform me what is the case.
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I also read yesterday by another member who had what appeared to be an adverse experience with his softronic. I will link his post/thread as per below. Please read post #1, half way down.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-no-vivid.html
ST evidently managed to correct the issue as now the member is happy with his tune however, that is not to say the problem didn't manifest after the tune was installed because going by the members own admissions it did. It was commendable that ST fixed the problem but one must ask why that occurs?
There is the claim by member drvik who said he has junked out of his ST tune…..he could always be contacted by pm and reported on.
Last edited by speed21; 01-24-2014 at 04:33 AM. Reason: edit as per request.
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So marine 8541 is Scott/Softronic? Great!
What a wonderful opportunity for ST to set the record straight on matters regarding their tune then.
And member drvik would be worth contacting I believe.
So what is the true story regarding the Vivid/ ST dyno? Who's dyno was/is it now?
Am I to interpret your previous post as you know users who have junked their Protomotive, Giac, or Evoms, for an FVD or Softronic tune? Please advise.
What a wonderful opportunity for ST to set the record straight on matters regarding their tune then.
And member drvik would be worth contacting I believe.
So what is the true story regarding the Vivid/ ST dyno? Who's dyno was/is it now?
Am I to interpret your previous post as you know users who have junked their Protomotive, Giac, or Evoms, for an FVD or Softronic tune? Please advise.
Last edited by speed21; 01-24-2014 at 04:32 AM. Reason: edit as requested
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Damn was the one that screw me over so I'm glad you are not with him anymore he was the worst dealer you could ever had...
Remember you didn't charge me the $300 fee for the fast turn around of the flash? Well Damn didn't want to give me the money back for that... It toke him like 1 month to give me my $300 back
Remember you didn't charge me the $300 fee for the fast turn around of the flash? Well Damn didn't want to give me the money back for that... It toke him like 1 month to give me my $300 back
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Actually, it seems that Leo's experience with the CEL is not just isolated to his car. I read yesterday by another member who had the same experience. I will link his post/thread as per below. Please read post #1, half way down.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-no-vivid.html
ST evidently managed to correct the issue as now the member is happy with his tune however, that is not to say the problem didn't manifest after the tune was installed because going by the members own admissions it did. It was commendable that ST fixed the problem but one must ask why that occurs?
Then there is the claim by member drvik who said he has junked out of his ST tune…..why don't you ask him directly by PM?
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-no-vivid.html
ST evidently managed to correct the issue as now the member is happy with his tune however, that is not to say the problem didn't manifest after the tune was installed because going by the members own admissions it did. It was commendable that ST fixed the problem but one must ask why that occurs?
Then there is the claim by member drvik who said he has junked out of his ST tune…..why don't you ask him directly by PM?
I see you referenced my post on 6Speedonline here. I have no issues there at all, but want to BE PERFECTLY CLEAR about what I experienced for others who may read that post or this one.
When I got my tune from Vivid I installed it with no problems at all...After I boosted and drove the hell out of it (I am a speed junkie and use to race motorcycles too!)....I got a CEL. My only frustration was that Dan at Vivid jacked around....Once I got Scott involved it was a simple maintenance item and had nothing to do with my tune. I actually had about 26K on my original plugs and they were about due for a change....That was my bad. Unfortunately IT SUCKS to try and change the plugs on these cars. I also data logged and appeared one of my VarioCam actuators was hanging just as an aside.
I simply did the required maintenance (plug change) and while I was at it (paying $1000 labor) I had the dealer change my Variocam actuators for good measure. After that, I had no more issues other than... as the car ages, I have had the usual Porsche BS fail or wear on it....But I am Ok to do maintenance..as it is a joy to drive.
ANYWAY....not discounting or questioning any issue you may or may not have with your car, but want to be clear about what I referenced since you pointed people to my post on 6Speed.
Good luck with whatever issues you currently have or had...I guess when you push these monsters to the limit they buck occasionally
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Damn was the one that screw me over so I'm glad you are not with him anymore he was the worst dealer you could ever had...
Remember you didn't charge me the $300 fee for the fast turn around of the flash? Well Damn didn't want to give me the money back for that... It toke him like 1 month to give me my $300 back
Remember you didn't charge me the $300 fee for the fast turn around of the flash? Well Damn didn't want to give me the money back for that... It toke him like 1 month to give me my $300 back
Semper Fi!
Scott
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Damn was the one that screw me over so I'm glad you are not with him anymore he was the worst dealer you could ever had...
Remember you didn't charge me the $300 fee for the fast turn around of the flash? Well Damn didn't want to give me the money back for that... It toke him like 1 month to give me my $300 back
Remember you didn't charge me the $300 fee for the fast turn around of the flash? Well Damn didn't want to give me the money back for that... It toke him like 1 month to give me my $300 back
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So Vivid and ST breaks up, Vivid starts its own SW brand, and claims the tunes are developed by who? They have a lot of tunes for the time frame this ordeal developed. In other words, it takes a long time to develop tunes. Who makes VT files?
Do they sell re-branded off-the-shelf files someone else already developed?
Either way as long as the product delivers and end user is happy it is all good. However, it is difficult for a reseller to address technical issues. Leo997TT is a prime example assuming he presents his case in all honesty (I do not doubt he doesn't, just for argument sake). He is in Miami, purchases software from Arizona, and hits road blocks where there is no consistent help.
Besides the questions I have, I would like to put my honest advise to the OP and those who are looking for a tune. There are a lot of products available to you right at this second. Given or take they are priced equally. Honestly if one makes 10 more hp then the other it is worth nothing but bragging rights.
1. Go with a software company who has a distributor network.
2. Make sure you have a distributor in your area, or in a perimeter within your comfortable reach.
3. Check out the facility, talk to the techs, the owner, or whoever...
4. It is important the facility has strong Porsche background.
5. Do all your homework, ask all the questions that concern you.
If these questions are answered in an honest, knowledgeable, and straight fwd manner, and you are comfortable with the facility, open your check book.
Remember, if you run into a problem with your tune, or problems that can be associated with the tune, your dealership is will not going to deal with it. You are either own your own, or on a distance call.
Regardless the brand name, this is what I would do as a consumer, and this is my advise in general.
Do they sell re-branded off-the-shelf files someone else already developed?
Either way as long as the product delivers and end user is happy it is all good. However, it is difficult for a reseller to address technical issues. Leo997TT is a prime example assuming he presents his case in all honesty (I do not doubt he doesn't, just for argument sake). He is in Miami, purchases software from Arizona, and hits road blocks where there is no consistent help.
Besides the questions I have, I would like to put my honest advise to the OP and those who are looking for a tune. There are a lot of products available to you right at this second. Given or take they are priced equally. Honestly if one makes 10 more hp then the other it is worth nothing but bragging rights.
1. Go with a software company who has a distributor network.
2. Make sure you have a distributor in your area, or in a perimeter within your comfortable reach.
3. Check out the facility, talk to the techs, the owner, or whoever...
4. It is important the facility has strong Porsche background.
5. Do all your homework, ask all the questions that concern you.
If these questions are answered in an honest, knowledgeable, and straight fwd manner, and you are comfortable with the facility, open your check book.
Remember, if you run into a problem with your tune, or problems that can be associated with the tune, your dealership is will not going to deal with it. You are either own your own, or on a distance call.
Regardless the brand name, this is what I would do as a consumer, and this is my advise in general.
Last edited by GermanCarSpecialists; 01-24-2014 at 01:12 AM. Reason: question to ST addressed by them