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Old 12-20-2013, 07:34 AM
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Hello everyone, I'm debating wether this numbers would warrant walking away fro this car. Dealers states its a solid car. MY 2008 with 49000k on the clock

Range 1: 2069/1669.4h
Range 2: 671/1669.4h
Range 3: 275/1602.5h
Range 4: 146/1602.5
Range 5: 1/306.4
Range 6: 0

PPI done at Porsche dealer who says the car is in great shape and has not been overreved.
There are values in range 4 and a 1 in range 5(not sure what a one is all about in this range)

Should I be concerned?

thanks for your input
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:54 AM
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I'd be concerned since the most recent over-rev is relatively new - looks like a mis-shift occurred recently (ranges 3 and 4 over-rev at hour 1602). Ask dealer how he can state car has not been overreved when the DME shows it has been.
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Dealership is BSing you. Ask them to CPO the car in writing with the report attached.
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Thanks for your responses. I will def call the dealer today and ask them about the recent overrev.
The car was inspected by Porsche dealer but not being sold by them
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Then, after they certify it, they will deny any warranty work because "the car has been over-revved".
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Well on range 5 you have a registered "1" - This may be a glitch, and I really would not be concerned at all with the range 5.

With the 1-4, in my opinion this is pretty damn low with a car that has 49k miles on her. I've seen 10,000 range 1's on cars that have 15k miles on them. Just some food for thought.
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the 1-3 ranges look very low. the range 4 is relatively recent but it's a very small number and the range 5 could be an anomaly

If you love the car and all else checks out then get a full warranty (CPO or otherwise) and get it in writing that they are warrantying the car with this current DME
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Originally Posted by MJK 944 View Post
Well on range 5 you have a registered "1" - This may be a glitch, and I really would not be concerned at all with the range 5.

With the 1-4, in my opinion this is pretty damn low with a car that has 49k miles on her. I've seen 10,000 range 1's on cars that have 15k miles on them. Just some food for thought.
I think I know where you might be going with this.....would a reflash reset the memory?

I spoke with manager at porsche dealer and he stated the numbers are ok and he would have no problem selling an extended warranty.
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checked out another 911 that supposedly suffered from a "lazy" wastegate actuator. This could be a major repair as it is on the driver's side which happens to be not serviceable. Is this a common problem on 997.1 TT?
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Originally Posted by Psup4s View Post
I spoke with manager at porsche dealer and he stated the numbers are ok and he would have no problem selling an extended warranty.
Extended warranty does not mean CPO. I'll "sell" you an extendend warranty too. Just PayPal me the $2,700. Now, try collecting on said warranty. Just saying.

Take your time. Be patient. There is always a better Porsche right around the corner. Enjoy the hunt.
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Will the Porsche dealer provide you a Porsche CPO for that car? If they say no, ask them why?

If they do make sure that they notate the reported hours...

The other car with the lazy actuator is NOT caused by the actuator. Installing a new actuator on the drivers side turbo will NOT fix it. The failure is inside the hot housing. The VNT blades mechanism is binding causing drag. The actuator fails due to the internal binding inside the hot housing. A new turbo is needed> parts and labor will set you back $4,700
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Originally Posted by LexVan View Post
Extended warranty does not mean CPO. I'll "sell" you an extendend warranty too. Just PayPal me the $2,700. Now, try collecting on said warranty. Just saying.

Take your time. Be patient. There is always a better Porsche right around the corner. Enjoy the hunt.
LexVan, the dealer said they can not CPO a vehicle they don't sell
I have decided to pass on this car as there are too many possible issues with it. The dealer forgot to measure the paint thickness and only got around doing that today.......sure enough turns out the whole passenger side has been re sprayed but not shown on carfax
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
Will the Porsche dealer provide you a Porsche CPO for that car? If they say no, ask them why?

If they do make sure that they notate the reported hours...

The other car with the lazy actuator is NOT caused by the actuator. Installing a new actuator on the drivers side turbo will NOT fix it. The failure is inside the hot housing. The VNT blades mechanism is binding causing drag. The actuator fails due to the internal binding inside the hot housing. A new turbo is needed> parts and labor will set you back $4,700
Kevin, the car with the lazy actuator happens to be the same car in question here. I got mixed up as I had seen two other ones. Based on what you said, I'm glad I decided to pass on this car.....$500 saved me thousands
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Sorry to just get in on this thread. But what is a DME? And how is it supposed to be read. I'm in the market for a 997.1 or 2TT, a 981, or BMW F82 and I'm doing my homework now. I've never heard of DME, can one of you gurus enlighten me?
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The DME is the cars electronic brain.. Another word for "ECU". The DME can be read only with the Dealers PIWIS tool.. It will show a history of hours on the engine and how it was driven..It may also show if the ECU has been altered (like a "flash".) Any range 5 or especially range 6 readings are a possible red flag to people buying the car..

Anytime that a prospective buyer is thinking of buying a TT or any other Porsche they should have the DME read.. This can avoid buying a car that has been abused of heavily tracked..

Dealers will always tell you the car has been babied and never tracked.. The DME scan will tell the truth..

Hope this helps..
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