Porsche admits third pedal is on its last legs.
#1
Porsche admits third pedal is on its last legs.
It could be true.
Once Walter says he doesn't need it then....it's
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/p...214-2efl8.html
Once Walter says he doesn't need it then....it's
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/p...214-2efl8.html
#2
It could be true.
Once Walter says he doesn't need it then....it's
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/p...214-2efl8.html
Once Walter says he doesn't need it then....it's
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/p...214-2efl8.html
#4
Such a shame, I passed up on a 'S' because of the PDK. It may get the car shifting easier and faster, but I find no difference with the auto-PDK over the oil-automatics which are crap to drive. Maybe good for those not willing to develop a little hand-brain coordination, but I think for sports cars, let's give the driver a sports trans, something maybe not found in the masses's array of conventional sedans, etc., but needed in a sports oriented car like a Porsche.
I personally don't think Walter is lying nor needs to lie, because the manual is indeed no longer necessary due to the PDK now being so efficient, but i'm sure if he was asked the same question over a beer, and outside of company earshot he may well give a different answer to what his own preference would be if he had the choice. That said he is getting on in years now and after countless laps of factory testing and pushing that rather heavy clutch pedal on these GT2 cars a PDK would be a very welcome option for his well worn left leg LOL.
#5
Agree 100% , but this article is not coming from Porsche, it's coming from a journalist who wants to have 'a story'.
It's not like Porsche issued a press release or anything of the sort.
And Walter is correct, in terms of performance and fuel economy a PDK is better.
Of course Porsche will stop offering manuals if nobody wants them anymore but I do not see that happening. On the contrary, I believe the manual will see a revival in the coming years.
Edit: from a selfish point of view I would hope the next turbo will only be offered in PDK, it will benefit manual 997 turbo value.
All my opinion of course. :-)
It's not like Porsche issued a press release or anything of the sort.
And Walter is correct, in terms of performance and fuel economy a PDK is better.
Of course Porsche will stop offering manuals if nobody wants them anymore but I do not see that happening. On the contrary, I believe the manual will see a revival in the coming years.
Edit: from a selfish point of view I would hope the next turbo will only be offered in PDK, it will benefit manual 997 turbo value.
All my opinion of course. :-)
Last edited by TT-911; 02-18-2013 at 08:38 AM.
#6
Being a manual driver at heart it would be bad day if/when the production switch is turned off on the manual tranny. Hopefully that day never comes. I will say though that the latest PDK is an incredibly well sorted gearbox but as good as it is I personally have my doubts to whether it would remain as interesting for the driver months and years on into the ownership. My feeling is not. Others may not agree and that is fine. But choice is good.
#7
I highly doubt that. Rather, there will be cars that drive automatically. They will have tiny force-fed engines as well. Everything for fuel efficiency and lower emissions.
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#10
The brands you mention sell in low volume and, in my opinion, can't be compared to a volume producer like Porsche. Porsche sells more manual cars than total production of those 3 brands combined.
#11
Cars made for transport only will go electric and be completely automated but that is a different market which I was not referring to.
#12
Still, I do not believe manual will have any significant rebirth in sportscar segment, even used.
#13
It could be true.
Once Walter says he doesn't need it then....it's
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/p...214-2efl8.html
Once Walter says he doesn't need it then....it's
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/p...214-2efl8.html
The move to 7-speed manuals and smaller engines is already in the wrong direction. Only hope is that demand from enthusiasts remains strong enough to justify the cost of produces two SKUs. IIRC BMW signaled a few years ago that M cars may only be offered with SMG in the future and there was an uproar in the US
But we may be the last generation that cares
#15
This from 911 and porsche world, my favorite UK publication...
Last few words from first page and first few words from second read:
"...for the first time in a cup car, the 6 speed dog type gearbox shifts via steering wheel paddles..."
This is in the official 2013 cup car. And in my view is a clear indication that even if there is a third pedal there, which I cant see in the picture, slowly slowly gear levers will disappear, and then the clutch will follow...