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Old 07-26-2009, 01:56 AM
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I'm going to resurrect this thread after the car comes out.
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Ferry Porsche started both Porsche and VW, and they have collaborated on numerous platforms over the years. There will be new VW parts/technology in Porsche cars, and integration of design, engineering and production.
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Interesting news!

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Intelligent Power: Consumption Down Significantly, Performance Up Once Again

New Porsche 911 Turbo making its Debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show

Stuttgart. Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, is proudly presenting a new top model at the pinnacle of its broad range of production sports cars: The new Porsche 911 Turbo combines farreaching innovations in technology with fine tuning and supreme refinement in design. All key features of this high-performance sports car have been significantly improved, the new 911 Turbo combining a substantial improvement in fuel efficiency and lower weight with more power, even higher speed, and enhanced driving dynamics.

Particularly in terms of fuel economy and dynamic performance, the new top-of-the-range 911 from Zuffenhausen now stands out even more than before from its competitors in the market. Porsche's new top model will be presented to the public for the first time at the Frankfurt Motor Show from 17 - 27 September.

The heart and highlight of the seventh generation of the Turbo is the new power unit displacing 3.8 litres and delivering maximum output of 500 bhp (368 kW). The first entirely new engine in the 35-year-history of the Turbo comes with features such as Direct Fuel Injection and Porsche's exclusive turbocharger with variable turbine geometry on a gasoline power unit. And as an option, the new six-cylinder may be combined for the first time with Porsche's seven-speed PDK Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (Double-Clutch Gearbox).

Models equipped with PDK are also available with a new, optional three-spoke steering wheel with gearshift paddles as an alternative to the standard steering wheel with its proven shift buttons. Fitted firmly on the steering wheel, the right paddle is for shifting up, the left paddle for shifting down. In conjunction with the optional Sport Chrono Package Turbo both the gearshift paddle and the PDK steering wheel with its shift buttons come with integrated displays for Launch Control and the Sport/Sport Plus mode, which are however designed differently on the two steering wheels.

The combination of PDK, Direct Fuel Injection and turbocharging ensures an unprecedented standard of efficiency, agility, responsiveness and performance, the Porsche 911 Turbo reducing CO2 emissions versus its predecessor by almost 18 per cent and therefore ranking unique in its segment also in this respect. Depending on the configuration of the car, the new top model requires just 11.4 - 11.7 ltr/100 km (equal to 24.8 - 24.1 mpg imp) under the EU5 standard. And unlike most other cars in its segment, the new Turbo remains even further below the crucial level of fuel consumption for gas guzzler tax in the USA, the special tax imposed on cars with substantial fuel consumption. All this despite acceleration to 100 km/h in 3.4 seconds. Top speed, in turn, is 312 km/h or 194 mph.

The Turbo driver of the future will also enjoy a further improvement in driving dynamics, detailed enhancement of PTM fully controlled all-wheel drive and PSM Porsche Stability Management being further supported by new PTV Porsche Torque Vectoring available as an option. This makes the car even more agile and precise in its steering for an even higher level of driving pleasure.

Sales of the new Porsche 911 Turbo in both Coupé and Cabriolet guise are starting in Germany on 21 November 2009. The Euro base price without value-added tax and national specifications is Euro 122,400.- for the Coupé and Euro 131,800.- for the Cabriolet. The gross retail price in Germany, therefore, is Euro 145,871.- for the Coupé and Euro 157,057.- for the Cabriolet, in each case including 19% value-added tax and national specifications.

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Interesting they don't mention the word 'sump' ...
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Originally Posted by ltc
Interesting they don't mention the word 'sump' ...
Hehehe, you've got a good eye..
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No, not a good eye.
Just depressing since I knew this day was coming...I wish I didn't know the things I knew...

The new engine in the Turbo MAY turn out be great, but their recent engine history (non M64/GT1 derived) is a bit less than impressive...

Sad to see the old lump go,
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Originally Posted by ltc
No, not a good eye.
Just depressing since I knew this day was coming...I wish I didn't know the things I knew...

The new engine in the Turbo MAY turn out be great, but their recent engine history (non M64/GT1 derived) is a bit less than impressive...

Sad to see the old lump go,
Indeed, the M64 has been a great work horse.
The new Turbo, I think from a consumer perspective, looks promising. I'm not sure the average buyer knows what a dry sump is after all.
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Originally Posted by Rassel
Indeed, the M64 has been a great work horse.
The new Turbo, I think from a consumer perspective, looks promising. I'm not sure the average buyer knows what a dry sump is after all.
Give them a set of slicks and put them on the track and they will learn pretty fast https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif
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Where did the wheel designers go....siberia? What crap. But that can be fixed.

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But geez, 157k Euros = $225k US. Hope they are still hedging currency. Otherwise, they can dream, but they won't sell.
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Originally Posted by Eric - Plug Guy
Where did the wheel designers go....siberia? What crap. But that can be fixed.

Like to see:
Sporty exhaust note
Ventilated Adaptive seats

But geez, 157k Euros = $225k US. Hope they are still hedging currency. Otherwise, they can dream, but they won't sell.
They will sell, just fewer.
VAG will reshape PAG in order to do what it does well and production levels that make sense, sort of what they did with Lambo.
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The US price will be ~133k base.
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Default So what will the next GT2 have?

Are they going to continue with the current 3.6L GT1 based motor, maybe enlarge it to 3.8L and put a couple of turbos on it for GT2 update? Then they will be making two different turbo engines. Is the new 997.2 tt engine based on Carrera S engine?
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No, only one more yr for the gt1 engine bc racing teams are already setup for 2010 with the 'good' motor. In the 2011 season all the cars, including the gt3/rs/2 will all have the consumer grade 9A1 engine. Kinda like back in the 70s all the GM cars had the same corporate engine.
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
In the 2011 season all the cars, including the gt3/rs/2 will all have the consumer grade 9A1 engine.
Is this a fact or speculation? Thanks


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