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Old 12-16-2007 | 11:22 PM
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If it was only about acceleration we would be looking at sport bikes, I'll keep my P-cars.
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Originally Posted by TT_man
Hennessey just ran a 10.77 @133mph 1/4mile. So your saying that your 997TT is quicker 60-130mph??
We ran back to back 3-4 times. I saw the 08 Viper put about 3 car lengths on the 05 Supercharged Viper. The S/C 05 Viper ran a 10.0 second 60-130. A stock C6Z06 ran a 9.5, turbo charged C5Z06 ran a 7.5. My car ran a 7.7. I think the exhaust modded Viper might run close to my chipped 997tt, but no way it is going to be much faster. Also after 130mph the Viper will start suffer badly from the aerodynamic drag factor (Cd 0.4)
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Originally Posted by eclou
We ran back to back 3-4 times. I saw the 08 Viper put about 3 car lengths on the 05 Supercharged Viper. The S/C 05 Viper ran a 10.0 second 60-130. A stock C6Z06 ran a 9.5, turbo charged C5Z06 ran a 7.5. My car ran a 7.7. I think the exhaust modded Viper might run close to my chipped 997tt, but no way it is going to be much faster. Also after 130mph the Viper will start suffer badly from the aerodynamic drag factor (Cd 0.4)
Hey eugene, that viper is making close to 700hp and needs 10.7 to reach 133mph, so assuming its 0-60 with good traction is 3.7, that leaves 7 seconds for 60-133 which is a bit faster than a chipped TT with exhaust. The 133 mph trap speed cannot be duplicated by a stage 2 TT, mine could not break 126 mph (PBOX) during the TX mile event.
This is what you need to upgrade to take care of that viper.....
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AAHTT - awww how cute your let the snails come out to play

Butt ugly or not I would still like to test drive one

I like the last of the R34 V-Specs with the whole aero kit and gold racing rims Call me old school. I just wouldn't pay over 100k for it so hence the 997TT instead.

I am sure the price point won't be near it's asking for about a year. I would like to see how low it will fall after the initial release. It would be a great 2nd car to tool around with.

We all have our opinions and some stand very close to "Other" Engineering outside of Japanese while others just go where they want. But we have to give the Japanese credit where it is due. They have created a lot of buzz, good numbers on this car and have given it some nice gadget in typical Japanese fashion. We also can thank them for showing Porsche how to run a tigher assembly/production line because without that Porsche would not be where they are now. So do give them some credit

Happy Motoring as the MINI Cooper club would say
Old 12-17-2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ALPINE_997
I am sure the price point won't be near it's asking for about a year. I would like to see how low it will fall after the initial release. It would be a great 2nd car to tool around with.
This is a good point... If the 3rd year prices (i.e. off-lease) come down to the $50K-ish range, I would love one to back up my RS4 (or whatever I'm driving then).
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Originally Posted by AAHTT
Hey eugene, that viper is making close to 700hp and needs 10.7 to reach 133mph, so assuming its 0-60 with good traction is 3.7, that leaves 7 seconds for 60-133 which is a bit faster than a chipped TT with exhaust. The 133 mph trap speed cannot be duplicated by a stage 2 TT, mine could not break 126 mph (PBOX) during the TX mile event.
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Nice turbos!

I don't think most people will be able to hook up a 3.7 0-60 on the Viper, and the 10.7 was on drag radials with a water box/VHT. I think his best on street tires was an 11.3. Even at 3.7 seconds 0-60 that would leave a 7.6 second 60-133 which is only a smidge faster - after that the 997tt should take back over handily when the Viper hits the aero wall.
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Originally Posted by eclou
Nice turbos!

I don't think most people will be able to hook up a 3.7 0-60 on the Viper, and the 10.7 was on drag radials with a water box/VHT. I think his best on street tires was an 11.3. Even at 3.7 seconds 0-60 that would leave a 7.6 second 60-133 which is only a smidge faster - after that the 997tt should take back over handily when the Viper hits the aero wall.
11.3 ( street tires) at 135 mph though. 135mph is smoking in the 1/4mile.

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AAHTT - awww how cute your let the snails come out to play

Butt ugly or not I would still like to test drive one

I like the last of the R34 V-Specs with the whole aero kit and gold racing rims Call me old school. I just wouldn't pay over 100k for it so hence the 997TT instead.

I am sure the price point won't be near it's asking for about a year. I would like to see how low it will fall after the initial release. It would be a great 2nd car to tool around with.

We all have our opinions and some stand very close to "Other" Engineering outside of Japanese while others just go where they want. But we have to give the Japanese credit where it is due. They have created a lot of buzz, good numbers on this car and have given it some nice gadget in typical Japanese fashion. We also can thank them for showing Porsche how to run a tigher assembly/production line because without that Porsche would not be where they are now. So do give them some credit

Happy Motoring as the MINI Cooper club would say
The previous R34 Spec was also my favorite. I would take one of those to the latest one. IMO the inline six layout is better to the new V6. I dont know why Nissan did not stick to that configuration though.

The Toyota Supra and the R34 spec Skyline are the two best Japanese cars period. The Supra won the Texas mile event , take a look at this video it is just sick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU8DxXhwdSI

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Originally Posted by TT_man
The previous R34 Spec was also my favorite. I would take one of those to the latest one. IMO the inline six layout is better to the new V6. I dont know why Nissan did not stick to that configuration though.
Emissions regs worldwide...
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Chuck that is just crazy! Thanks for posting..

The inline 6 is a beast in sheep's clothing..

I think if they evolved the R34 V-Spec to some rounded lines and kept the interior functional without all the "Oooohs and Ahhhhs" they could have a bigger winner. But then again as mentioned above I am partial to old school V-Spec R34's.

Eclou - how are you enjoying the new beaut in your garage I am sure you tooling around with it on weekends aren't you?


Chris - If you did get a backup - I think you would find yourself driving it more than you realize. I know I would because of the DSG. Some people argue the DSG installed in a Nissan/Datsun isn't a real experience but I am sure those same people are inquiring about it for the 997's if they release it in 2009.
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Originally Posted by ALPINE_997
Chris - If you did get a backup - I think you would find yourself driving it more than you realize. I know I would because of the DSG. Some people argue the DSG installed in a Nissan/Datsun isn't a real experience but I am sure those same people are inquiring about it for the 997's if they release it in 2009.
Oh I'm sure you're right. When I had my S4, I bought a new GTI as "backup/DD". I ended up driving the GTI all the time (it was DSG, too). I ended up trading them both in for the 997S. I think this time, I'll either keep the RS4 and get a used GT-R or trade it in for an AM V8 Vantage... decisions decisions.
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Emissions regs worldwide...
What does a inline six have anything to do with emissions? ALL of BMW 3 series are inline 6s, and the new 330i has a turbocharged inline 6..
Old 12-17-2007 | 10:39 PM
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Someone mention R34 V Spec.????



Absolute beaut-i-mus max-i-mus!

Guys there are a few things to consider on the RB26 on the Skylines (2.6L straight 6)...if used on a LHD chassis car for the US \ North American market, the turbos would conflict \ hit with the steering shaft going into the rack...also the RB26 was developed from the RB20 which debuted in 1984 and emissions as Chris from Cali mentioned these engines would never meet.

The BMW straight sixes and esp. the new straight sixes are a much more modern much cleaner more efficient engine (direct injection etc etc).

Regards - Yasin
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I have a new 08 ACR Viper coming. At 600hp and all the racing equipment stock on it I fully expect it to beat gt3 cup cars on the track.

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Originally Posted by Billy Wyatt
I have a new 08 ACR Viper coming. At 600hp and all the racing equipment stock on it I fully expect it to beat gt3 cup cars on the track.
OMG I wouldnt be surprised if it beat the new GT2 on the track as well. Congrats By the way, heres a cool video of the new Viper ACR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3VwamxJ5iI





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