dk996tt

I currently have the first launch car coming into the Cleveland Area (by end of May). It is a 6 speed in GT Silver/Black. I have never owned a tiptronic turbo but i think i want a tiptronic this time from everything i have read. Is there anyone in the opposite situation who might want to trade their tiptronic for my 6 speed?

Trip

Don't do it! The tip may be a few ticks faster, but you wont notice or feel the difference. The tip will be heavy and therefore not handle as well. The tip will be slower above 200kph. The tip will not be nearly as fun to drive. Some testers have already commented on this. Its not worth it at all!

boolala

For the TT the tip is the car to get. It's faster between any two speeds not just 0 - 60. The top speeds for the tip and 6 speed are identical. The tip is 0.4 sec faster to 60. This is highly significant and you will definately feel it. Even experienced Pcar drivers think the tip is the way to go with the turbo. Now if you can wait for the PDK that'll be even better. See the June 2000 issue of MT.

ltc

In the past, the Tiptronic vs 6 speed decision often came down to driving environment; the Tip was preferred in a daily driver, especially in city traffic, stop and go, etc.

Of course, in the end, it always comes down to the perception that a Tiptronic is a 'girls' transmission....REAL men would NEVER drive a Tiptronic....the ONLY way to experience a Porsche is with a manual gearbox.....you get the idea. Those debates/posts can be humorous at times....do a search in the 996TT forum, there have been some classics.

If you've never driven a Tip, I would suggest going to your dealer and driving one. I've driven both in a 996TT and wouldn't have minded going for either one (FWIW, my 996TT is a 6 speed, just ended up that way)

Eric - Plug Guy

Agree with ltc....go drive one first.

My '99 996 was a tip, my '04 C4S cab is a 6speed. I would not give a rat's a$$ is the tip was free....I still enjoy the fun factor of the 6speed, even as a daily driver.

Go for what suits you best.

dk996tt

i did test drive a 996 turbo tiptronic. to me, the 996 in the tiptronic felt slower but i got the gist of what it was about. i recently picked up the new M5 in the SMG. I love it in manual mode, however, when you put it in "D"rive, it's barely acceptable. i find that i am always using the paddle shifter at the most agressive transmission setting. i don't think it i would be able to test drive the new 997 turbo in a tiptronic as all units are sold. since i'm in cleveland, there's not a lot of traffic and i get to drive the car on a regular basis. since i already have a 996 turbo that heavily modified with a six speed, i thought if i were ever to consider a tiptronic, it would be on the 997 turbo.

1AS

If you are taking a short lease, I wouldn't be afraid of taking a tip. Introduction of the DSG will turn the supply/demand curve upside down, and may make a newer tip less desirable. A short lease shifts the risk to the seller. The secrecy over the intro date is certainly in Porsche's favor, as a date certain would cause buyers to wait.
I do think you will feel the difference in quickness up to 60 in the tip, and personally, I feel the tip is quicker in traffic because the downshift is faster than you can do manually. The real issue to me is just the impact that the DSG will have on desirability of later tips on the resale market. AS

boolala

In an interview in R&T porsche said the PDK was 2 years off. My guess is that it will not be introduced until demand for the TT cools off from its apparant initial very high demand where supply wili likely not catch up with demand for 2 - 3 years.

gr8330

What do you think about this
https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...79&postcount=1

boolala

Porsche calls it PDK and it won't be out for at least 2 years. The tip is still a slushbox. The reason for the supurb performance of the tip in the TT is related to an optimised gearbox and the ability to maintian turbo boost between gear changes. There are many articles and press releases from Porsche about this.

dk996tt

the combination of peak torque starting at 1950 rpms and being able to launch at full boost is the key to its performance. you are literally able to put all the power to the ground without any wheel spin. 0-60 has to feel amazing in the tiptronic.

Sun Ra

2 of my 3 996 TT's were tips and if you face reality most people are just as fast as stick or faster in my case. would never order stick 997 TT, did order tip which is much improved.

do a search, you will find much discussion back when 996 TT's were new about tips

SciFrog

Stick is fatser above 125mph... where at you going to drive above that speed in the US?

dk996tt

On a road coarse?

1AS

Most road courses don't let you get much above 125. In the Chicago Area, we have Gingerman, Gratten, Blackhawk Farms, and Elkhart Lake. I haven't tried Autobahn yet (scheduled early June). Of the 4, only Elkhart gets much above that number.
Even there, I think most non-experts would be faster in a tip (left in full auto). 6 speeds are actually a little more than most are comfortable or good with. My guess is that most would be just as fast with a 4 speed, or a three, if they still made them. Recall, the Chaparral was a two speed. AS