US Pricing for all 2010 to 2013 997.2 TT or TTS currently for sale as of Nov 2019
#46
At 83k miles I would not consider it unless A. the price was much cheaper or B. the PDK had been replaced. And that doesn't even account for all the other things that can go wrong. There's a reason that Fidelity warrantees get much more expensive when you get to high miles....80k and up. While there's anecdotal evidence of 100k cars with original PDK and engines they aren't the rule And if you are short enough on cash that you have to buy a high-mile car then think about what happened to Bronz when lightning struck twice.
If you buy 40k miles for $90k and drive 10k miles it will be easier to get money back later than a 86k mile car for $65k that would then need to sell with 96k miles....and the additional risk during ownership.
That car does look nice though.
If you buy 40k miles for $90k and drive 10k miles it will be easier to get money back later than a 86k mile car for $65k that would then need to sell with 96k miles....and the additional risk during ownership.
That car does look nice though.
BTW, the turbo PDK is considerably beefed-up from the Carrera PDK with bigger clutches, higher strength driveshafts, and forged rather than cast parts at key high stress area. Tracked PDKs would concern me a bit as the 997.2 doesn't have a gear oil cooler (added in the 991). I would not want one that had been dragged either as replacement turbo clutches aren't available and launch control will accelerate wear. If a new PDK is needed, one can keep the cost to $12k with a remanufactured unit from Porsche and a DIY install.
#47
LOL. That's exactly why I wrote the "Guide to repairing a PDK transmission" sticky over in the 997 forum. I DIY everything and became obsessed with the thought of it failing after I got my turbo. Now I'm sure I can fix it (short of a trashed gear case) and it's not a daily driver so I can to have it on jack stands for a few months if needed. Mine only has 58k which is highish for a turbo but not high generally as these 997.2 powertrains are reliable. Completely agree that if it's a daily driver and one isn't mechanically-inclined an 80k mile example is probably not a good idea.
BTW, the turbo PDK is considerably beefed-up from the Carrera PDK with bigger clutches, higher strength driveshafts, and forged rather than cast parts at key high stress area. Tracked PDKs would concern me a bit as the 997.2 doesn't have a gear oil cooler (added in the 991). I would not want one that had been dragged either as replacement turbo clutches aren't available and launch control will accelerate wear. If a new PDK is needed, one can keep the cost to $12k with a remanufactured unit from Porsche and a DIY install.
BTW, the turbo PDK is considerably beefed-up from the Carrera PDK with bigger clutches, higher strength driveshafts, and forged rather than cast parts at key high stress area. Tracked PDKs would concern me a bit as the 997.2 doesn't have a gear oil cooler (added in the 991). I would not want one that had been dragged either as replacement turbo clutches aren't available and launch control will accelerate wear. If a new PDK is needed, one can keep the cost to $12k with a remanufactured unit from Porsche and a DIY install.
https://www.dodsonmotorsport.com/dmspdkupgrade
#48
I like the idea of driving around a top tier p car with basically no worries regard to miles/dings/minor hits causing significant depreciation. And the condition of this one had me thinking, couldn't tell if it's a 20k or 85k mile car from the pics. Not very familiar with the mechanicals of 7.2 tts, heard good things about reliability, anything common/should keep an eye on mech wise for a 100k mile tts?
Last edited by PV997; 07-09-2020 at 01:21 PM.
#49
Dodson makes upgraded PDK clutches, but they are nearly as much as an entire remanufactured PDK
https://www.dodsonmotorsport.com/dmspdkupgrade
https://www.dodsonmotorsport.com/dmspdkupgrade
#50
I like the idea of driving around a top tier p car with basically no worries regard to miles/dings/minor hits causing significant depreciation. And the condition of this one had me thinking, couldn't tell if it's a 20k or 85k mile car from the pics. Not very familiar with the mechanicals of 7.2 tts, heard good things about reliability, anything common/should keep an eye on mech wise for a 100k mile tts?
.2's are known to be almost bullet proof. PDK is my only worry, so I bought a Fidelity Platinum Warranty for 6 y / 60k miles extra. My car has 40K miles just the other day. So I'm not worried at all.
Change the pads and roll.
#51
Everything I've read and seen first hand points to these cars being very reliable. PDK issue is scary given the replacement cost and repair difficulty but rare. While it seems uncommon to see super high mileage Turbos in the US, it is much more common in Europe. I'm honestly not sure where the US Turbos go when they approach 100K...perhaps they are being sold internationally?
Buy it and make it a 200K Turbo...you will be featured in the Panorama magazine
Buy it and make it a 200K Turbo...you will be featured in the Panorama magazine
#52
Thanks for the collected inputs guys. I’m not actively looking but this one gives me an idea. If it’s still around for another month or so and I can get over the cab’s look I’ll get more serious!
#53
Everything I've read and seen first hand points to these cars being very reliable. PDK issue is scary given the replacement cost and repair difficulty but rare. While it seems uncommon to see super high mileage Turbos in the US, it is much more common in Europe. I'm honestly not sure where the US Turbos go when they approach 100K...perhaps they are being sold internationally?
Buy it and make it a 200K Turbo...you will be featured in the Panorama magazine
Buy it and make it a 200K Turbo...you will be featured in the Panorama magazine