DSC Sport Tuning Academy
#16
we need a lesson how to use it, looking forward to how one goes about bump and rebound like for like over turning a **** one click on a shock.
Simple sells, I would be all over this but no one seems to know how to use it in the UK still.
I would love just a bump and rebound 1 click button in the software.
Simple sells, I would be all over this but no one seems to know how to use it in the UK still.
I would love just a bump and rebound 1 click button in the software.
#17
Racer
we need a lesson how to use it, looking forward to how one goes about bump and rebound like for like over turning a **** one click on a shock.
Simple sells, I would be all over this but no one seems to know how to use it in the UK still.
I would love just a bump and rebound 1 click button in the software.
Simple sells, I would be all over this but no one seems to know how to use it in the UK still.
I would love just a bump and rebound 1 click button in the software.
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we need a lesson how to use it, looking forward to how one goes about bump and rebound like for like over turning a **** one click on a shock.
Simple sells, I would be all over this but no one seems to know how to use it in the UK still.
I would love just a bump and rebound 1 click button in the software.
Simple sells, I would be all over this but no one seems to know how to use it in the UK still.
I would love just a bump and rebound 1 click button in the software.
Regarding UK shops, there are some very knowledgeable dealers there. Parr UK, Nine Excellence, and Center Gravity come to mind. In fact, Center Gravity was able to find an extra 2 seconds in a GT4 at Silverstone with the DSC controller. They then did some custom tuning and found an ADDITIONAL 2 seconds. So they might have even figured out something we haven't yet!
~Jordan
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#19
Burning Brakes
I have been reading the information on this module. It seems as though the primary design is to give folks a better street version and a better track version using the two PASM modes. I have a 997.2 GT3 set up for NASA TT2. It never sees the street. Can I get this setup with two track modes? I don't need a street mode. This is an interesting option versus spending the money on remote reservoir motons. The tutorials don't show me if I can easily modify the programming to increase/decrease understeer/oversteer depending on the track. Would I have to remove the module, plug it into a PC, and reprogram each time? Where can I find more literature to understand if it will give me what I want. I want to be able to stand on the brakes without transferring all the weight up front. That seems interesting.
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I have been reading the information on this module. It seems as though the primary design is to give folks a better street version and a better track version using the two PASM modes. I have a 997.2 GT3 set up for NASA TT2. It never sees the street. Can I get this setup with two track modes? I don't need a street mode. This is an interesting option versus spending the money on remote reservoir motons. The tutorials don't show me if I can easily modify the programming to increase/decrease understeer/oversteer depending on the track. Would I have to remove the module, plug it into a PC, and reprogram each time? Where can I find more literature to understand if it will give me what I want. I want to be able to stand on the brakes without transferring all the weight up front. That seems interesting.
program/configure each map is up to "you" using the PC based tool.
You could have "lincoln town car" soft or "wagon wheel" hard ... your call,
in short there is no "street" or "track" mode ... simply two selectable,
configurable maps... or you could have "Sears Point" and "Laguna Seca"
as the two maps...
you do not have to remove the DSC, in the 997.2 GT3 the PASM controller
is located on the passenger side just in front of the door, under the trim,
you can leave a USB cable plugged into the unit and program it from the
comfort of the passenger seat (and when they get the wifi version ready
you wont even need the USB cable)!
Once you have setup a map, its a trivial operation of less than a minute to
upload it into the DSC in either the "normal" or "sport" selectable map.
As to the programming itself, I believe that TPC are working on a series
of tutorials to teach us all how to tune the suspension, however rest
assured that you can do more than adjust under/oversteer (which is
more readily adjusted via ARBs/swaybars IMO) with DSC you can have
it load front/back & left/right and a bewildering set of other combinations
based upon the inputs from the cars various sensors/accelerometers etc
dynamically ... unlike any 2 or 3 way adjustable suspension which is "static"
and thus has no ability to react to changes in the car as it laps the circuit.
#21
Burning Brakes
Passenger seat? What's a passenger seat?
I used understeer/oversteer loosely as I was tired and not wanting to type too much. I basically want to control everything I can. The most optimum approach for me would be the different tracks as you mention. If I can have as many track files as I want on my PC, I can load which two I want into the DSC before a track weekend. I would likely have a dry track and wet track for each track and load those two for each weekend.
I used understeer/oversteer loosely as I was tired and not wanting to type too much. I basically want to control everything I can. The most optimum approach for me would be the different tracks as you mention. If I can have as many track files as I want on my PC, I can load which two I want into the DSC before a track weekend. I would likely have a dry track and wet track for each track and load those two for each weekend.
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then get a longer UB cable and do it from the comfort of the drivers seat instead!
gotcha, well as you probably know, what you are ultimately controlling is
the valve in the PASM shock, controlling its compression/rebound rate...
So, you have (independent) control of each corner of the car, and you have
a number of "inputs" from the cars sensors with which to dynamically
adjust that, so for example you can stiffen the "outside" shocks in a corner
(loading the front, outside more than the rear) or stiffen the fronts in braking, or the rears during acceleration... all in near real time...
Which in my mind is a much more flexible solution than any 2 or 3 way
system where you "set it and forget it", so you pick a compromise for
the track and the conditions...
Of course, the "downside" is that "you" need to be proficient in interpreting
the data you can gather with the DSC (in data logging mode) and turning
that into a map! Hopefully the forthcoming tutorials will help us all learn
what Mike and Tom already know!
BTW they have been extremely helpful in tuning my 911 DSC maps to suit
so kudos for great customer service.
you can indeed have as many "track" maps as you are prepared to create on the PC, and as I said it takes about as long as booting your PC, starting the
app, connecting the USB from the DSC to the PC, to download a map into
it... literally in under 5 mins.
hope this helps
- Larry
the valve in the PASM shock, controlling its compression/rebound rate...
So, you have (independent) control of each corner of the car, and you have
a number of "inputs" from the cars sensors with which to dynamically
adjust that, so for example you can stiffen the "outside" shocks in a corner
(loading the front, outside more than the rear) or stiffen the fronts in braking, or the rears during acceleration... all in near real time...
Which in my mind is a much more flexible solution than any 2 or 3 way
system where you "set it and forget it", so you pick a compromise for
the track and the conditions...
Of course, the "downside" is that "you" need to be proficient in interpreting
the data you can gather with the DSC (in data logging mode) and turning
that into a map! Hopefully the forthcoming tutorials will help us all learn
what Mike and Tom already know!
BTW they have been extremely helpful in tuning my 911 DSC maps to suit
so kudos for great customer service.
The most optimum approach for me would be the different tracks as you mention. If I can have as many track files as I want on my PC, I can load which two I want into the DSC before a track weekend. I would likely have a dry track and wet track for each track and load those two for each weekend.
app, connecting the USB from the DSC to the PC, to download a map into
it... literally in under 5 mins.
hope this helps
- Larry
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Lesson 110 - "Checking & Updating Firmware"
In this week's lesson, we walk you through how to check and update your firmware version for your DSC Sport controller.
OVERVIEW:
1. Unplug DSC from vehicle, or make sure you leave vehicle ignition off for entire firmware update process.
2. Download DSC Sport Utility
3. Download Firmware file for your vehicle
4. Save your current .pdts file if you wish to continue using it after you update your firmware.
5. Open DSC Utility, browse for firmware file, check "Firmware and EEprom, and click "Install"
6. Unplug DSC controller from power
7. Plug controller back in, open saved .pdts file, and write to controller if desired.
OVERVIEW:
1. Unplug DSC from vehicle, or make sure you leave vehicle ignition off for entire firmware update process.
2. Download DSC Sport Utility
3. Download Firmware file for your vehicle
4. Save your current .pdts file if you wish to continue using it after you update your firmware.
5. Open DSC Utility, browse for firmware file, check "Firmware and EEprom, and click "Install"
6. Unplug DSC controller from power
7. Plug controller back in, open saved .pdts file, and write to controller if desired.
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Lesson 125 - "Datalogging With the Record Function"
In today's DSC Sport Tuning Academy Lesson, learn how to use the Record function to perform basic datalogging in the DSC Sport Tuning Software.