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Old 03-16-2016, 04:13 PM
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How many hours/$ for the cup car shifter cable install? TIA!
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I was recently quoted 3-4 hours of labor to install the cup shifter and cables from a local shop.
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Shifter and cup cables was billed at 6 hours for me.
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its a few hours. i think mine was included at no charge (well no additional charge) when I had my motor dropped. need to pull the center console which is a few mins work, but it's not a hard job. hell "I" could do it in under 6 hours.
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Cool I am getting a quote of 2.7 hours ($495) which seems about fair. I am just doing the cables for now. Thinking I can add the 996 shifter later myself fairly easily if I desire. Thoughts? Hoping to retain the shorter throw while improving action. I know the 996 cup shifter is supposed to feel great but has a longer throw than stock.
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6hrs is including lunch and dinner time
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Originally Posted by bergx7
Cool I am getting a quote of 2.7 hours ($495) which seems about fair. I am just doing the cables for now. Thinking I can add the 996 shifter later myself fairly easily if I desire. Thoughts? Hoping to retain the shorter throw while improving action. I know the 996 cup shifter is supposed to feel great but has a longer throw than stock.
Cup cables and Cup shifter are perfect together. I'd do both while at it. The throw of the cup shifter is spot on..
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since you have a .1 car put the 997.2/RS or 996 cup shifter in there. Its a freebie while you're doing the cables
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Any strong preference between the cup vs. 997.2? Aren't the cables 90% of the solution and shifter just marginal gains?
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Or you could install the SHIFT-RIGHT Solution on your existing shifter, retain your shorter 997 shifter throw, and have a smoother and more durable shifter than the Cup shifter! It's back in stock next week. There's a big write-up of it vs the other OEM shifter options here:

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...n-upgrade.html

I've seen some well-used Cup shifters exhibit a lot of fore-aft free play after 1 track season - so what starts off feeling like a good improvement wears out in due time. YMMV depending on how you drive, how often you track, etc.

The big benefit of the cables, in terms of shifter feel, is the metal ends. Your stock cables have rubber isolated ends at the transmission, which really dampens shifter feel and absorbs your input forces. The Cup cables aren't very tightly toleranced to the gear selector levers at the transmission, however, so there will be some added free play at the shifter (and rattling noise), which is why it's crucial to eliminate as much play as possible from everywhere else in the shifting system.

On my track Cayman, I actually just lopped off the OEM rubber ends with a cut-off disc, and made an adapter to affix a steel ball-socket end onto the existing cable, which didn't require pulling the cables out of the car. But that was a completely custom job. The one caveat is you don't get the thicker and more durable Cup cables - OEM is 5mm cable and Cup is 6mm.
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Originally Posted by bergx7
Any strong preference between the cup vs. 997.2? Aren't the cables 90% of the solution and shifter just marginal gains?
+1. I've driven a .1 GT3 with the cup shifter and cables and loved how the car shifted compared to my .2 GT3. Would simply adding the cables to my .2 shifter provide a similar result or is the cup shifter and cables preferred over the .2 shifter and cables?
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The .2 shifter is basically a Cup shifter, with 15% shorter throws. So it depends what you loved about the other car's setup. Chances are, it's the cables.
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Originally Posted by Function-First
The .2 shifter is basically a Cup shifter, with 15% shorter throws. So it depends what you loved about the other car's setup. Chances are, it's the cables.
Great. Thanks for the input. The car with the cup cables and cup shifter had a more "mechanical" and bolt action feel when shifting gears compared to my .2 shifter which feels more "rubbery" between shifts if that makes any sense.
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Originally Posted by boostedt0y
Great. Thanks for the input. The car with the cup cables and cup shifter had a more "mechanical" and bolt action feel when shifting gears compared to my .2 shifter which feels more "rubbery" between shifts if that makes any sense.
Yup, very rubbery...

Here's what the 987/997 OEM cable ends look like dissected:





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Originally Posted by bergx7
Cool I am getting a quote of 2.7 hours ($495) which seems about fair. I am just doing the cables for now. Thinking I can add the 996 shifter later myself fairly easily if I desire. Thoughts? Hoping to retain the shorter throw while improving action. I know the 996 cup shifter is supposed to feel great but has a longer throw than stock.
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Any strong preference between the cup vs. 997.2? Aren't the cables 90% of the solution and shifter just marginal gains?
If you have a 7.1 then the 7.2 shifter might be a nice little change, IF the nylon bushing in your stock shifter is worn (like mine was). 7.2 is the exact same shifter so throw and such will be the same, except that it has solid metal bushings in place of the nylon ones. I did it since, if you are already in there tearing stuff apart, you might as well.

My 7.2 shifter might be for sale in a few weeks, I just put in a order for a CAE. Almost a waste since I haven't even used the 7.2 shifter much, but I hear the CAE is fun.... Huehuehuehuehue.


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