How much better is a 997.2 than a 997.1?
#16
I ended up with a .2 but I don't think I would have regretted a .1. I just liked the looks, interior, electronics and longer warranty at the time of purchase a little more.
PS: I think the .2's are going to suffer the same coolant pipe issues as the .2's; just 2-3 years later. I've seen a few already. Time to get pinned.
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1. there is a diff. but it cannot be converted to dollar difference
2. is the diff SIGNIFICANT, each one of us will have difference answer. 7.1 is my least fav from of GT/RS variant. does that make them bad cars? NO. i just like 6.2 and 7.2 better. i cannot answer that for YOU.
3. drive them both. some will not feel the difference at all. some would prefer .1 others .2, a drive is worth a million words.
2. is the diff SIGNIFICANT, each one of us will have difference answer. 7.1 is my least fav from of GT/RS variant. does that make them bad cars? NO. i just like 6.2 and 7.2 better. i cannot answer that for YOU.
3. drive them both. some will not feel the difference at all. some would prefer .1 others .2, a drive is worth a million words.
#18
Everyone will rationalize that the one they have is the better choice.
I've driven .1 and .2 GT3 back to back on fast country back roads. To me the difference is significant...gen 2 GT3 wins. I'd definitely take a .2 GT3 over a .1 RS too.
I've driven .1 and .2 GT3 back to back on fast country back roads. To me the difference is significant...gen 2 GT3 wins. I'd definitely take a .2 GT3 over a .1 RS too.
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my question is whether or not you would take a .2GT3 RS over a 991 GT3... ()...sorry for the minor highjack...
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A lot of great opinions here. Thanks.
I did forget about getting stuck with the center-locks. I wish Porsche we let go of this marketing gimmick and go back to 5 lug.
Regarding the ceramics comments, I think they're exceptional brakes but just too expensive for a regularly tracked car. Perfect for the street tho.
After all these years I still love my car, I was just wondering if I'd love something else more? :-) Always looking for the next big thing.
In the end I'm wondering if it makes more sense to wait and consider a .2 RS if the right one comes along. Until then I'll just continue enjoying the best car I've ever owned.
I did forget about getting stuck with the center-locks. I wish Porsche we let go of this marketing gimmick and go back to 5 lug.
Regarding the ceramics comments, I think they're exceptional brakes but just too expensive for a regularly tracked car. Perfect for the street tho.
After all these years I still love my car, I was just wondering if I'd love something else more? :-) Always looking for the next big thing.
In the end I'm wondering if it makes more sense to wait and consider a .2 RS if the right one comes along. Until then I'll just continue enjoying the best car I've ever owned.
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A lot of great opinions here. Thanks.
I did forget about getting stuck with the center-locks. I wish Porsche we let go of this marketing gimmick and go back to 5 lug.
Regarding the ceramics comments, I think they're exceptional brakes but just too expensive for a regularly tracked car. Perfect for the street tho.
After all these years I still love my car, I was just wondering if I'd love something else more? :-) Always looking for the next big thing.
In the end I'm wondering if it makes more sense to wait and consider a .2 RS if the right one comes along. Until then I'll just continue enjoying the best car I've ever owned.
I did forget about getting stuck with the center-locks. I wish Porsche we let go of this marketing gimmick and go back to 5 lug.
Regarding the ceramics comments, I think they're exceptional brakes but just too expensive for a regularly tracked car. Perfect for the street tho.
After all these years I still love my car, I was just wondering if I'd love something else more? :-) Always looking for the next big thing.
In the end I'm wondering if it makes more sense to wait and consider a .2 RS if the right one comes along. Until then I'll just continue enjoying the best car I've ever owned.
If considering something else more then pass on the 997.2GT3 and go straight to a 997.2RS (if prices ever settle down).
More wing, more ***, better gearing and lower production. Great upgrade. You will notice a difference more so then with a 997.2GT3 especially for the price delta involved.
For now you really got a great 911 with a long shelf life.
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1. there is a diff. but it cannot be converted to dollar difference
2. is the diff SIGNIFICANT, each one of us will have difference answer. 7.1 is my least fav from of GT/RS variant. does that make them bad cars? NO. i just like 6.2 and 7.2 better. i cannot answer that for YOU.
3. drive them both. some will not feel the difference at all. some would prefer .1 others .2, a drive is worth a million words.
2. is the diff SIGNIFICANT, each one of us will have difference answer. 7.1 is my least fav from of GT/RS variant. does that make them bad cars? NO. i just like 6.2 and 7.2 better. i cannot answer that for YOU.
3. drive them both. some will not feel the difference at all. some would prefer .1 others .2, a drive is worth a million words.
Surprised no one has mentioned that .1 leak @ RMS, .2 don't
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Many good points, I'm a new GT3 owner but having driven the 996, 997.1, and 997.2, I decided on the 997.2.
Looks are subjective, I personally prefer the 997.2 (except for the steering wheel). The rest cannot be debated. Better power delivery, brakes, much improved suspension, better aero, sport buckets, dynamic engine mounts. Don't care about the center locks on the 997.2 but I can live with them.
And the current market price difference between the 997.1 vs 997.2 says it all. It's a $30K delta.
I looked at .2RS but those are another $30-40K over a 997.2 GT3 and at that point, at least for me, the car is too expensive to properly enjoy.
BTW, if you include the 4.0, 997.2 GT3 was produced in lower quantities than the 997.2 RS.
Looks are subjective, I personally prefer the 997.2 (except for the steering wheel). The rest cannot be debated. Better power delivery, brakes, much improved suspension, better aero, sport buckets, dynamic engine mounts. Don't care about the center locks on the 997.2 but I can live with them.
And the current market price difference between the 997.1 vs 997.2 says it all. It's a $30K delta.
I looked at .2RS but those are another $30-40K over a 997.2 GT3 and at that point, at least for me, the car is too expensive to properly enjoy.
BTW, if you include the 4.0, 997.2 GT3 was produced in lower quantities than the 997.2 RS.
#28
I've owned a '07 RS in Green and a '11 RS white.. tracked both regularly... here are my thoughts:
mk1 Felt more raw vs. mk2... more understeer vs. mk2.. but more feedback vs. mk2... mk2 has a slight numb feeling vs. mk1, which give a lot of seat feedback. mk2 drives more like cup once set up properly... mk1 was harder to setup and rear was always breaking lose on turn in and mid-turn.. mk2 was solid. both equally as tossable.. mk1 felt smaller thought and more precise.. but more confident when driving mk2.. lap time faster in mk2. mk2 doesn't really needs any mods to handle well.. toe links and cup diff and you're set... mk1 took motons, suspension links, diff, etc to finally feel balanced and controllable at the limit.
mk2 is just a more refined car vs mk1.. mk2 really offers best mix of refinement, control and rawness you'd expect from an RS... mk1 had more raw, but less refined and had handling issues vs. mk2.
IMO, mk2 is the better car no question. I wouldn't even consider a mk1 at this point, regardless of how much cheaper vs. mk2.
mk1 Felt more raw vs. mk2... more understeer vs. mk2.. but more feedback vs. mk2... mk2 has a slight numb feeling vs. mk1, which give a lot of seat feedback. mk2 drives more like cup once set up properly... mk1 was harder to setup and rear was always breaking lose on turn in and mid-turn.. mk2 was solid. both equally as tossable.. mk1 felt smaller thought and more precise.. but more confident when driving mk2.. lap time faster in mk2. mk2 doesn't really needs any mods to handle well.. toe links and cup diff and you're set... mk1 took motons, suspension links, diff, etc to finally feel balanced and controllable at the limit.
mk2 is just a more refined car vs mk1.. mk2 really offers best mix of refinement, control and rawness you'd expect from an RS... mk1 had more raw, but less refined and had handling issues vs. mk2.
IMO, mk2 is the better car no question. I wouldn't even consider a mk1 at this point, regardless of how much cheaper vs. mk2.
#29
I think what you're getting at is what has been stated by others, the refinement is the biggest difference with the .1 .2 and is the suspension calibration and setup (then add in aero, gearing, and more power).
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take a stock .1 and a stock .2 and give them each a proper alignment and corner balance and it will all come down to the shock valving in terms of car control and handling characteristics.
Both are the same tub and suspension connection points.
Both are the same tub and suspension connection points.