BartN (TX)

I know this will be a subjective topic but here goes. I keep looking at For Sale ads for 997.2's and figure the delta between my '07 14K mile car and a .2 is somewhere around $25K-$30K. Many of the .2's don't have that many miles less than mine.

How much better is the .2 over my .1 and is it worth $30K? How many of you have upgraded from a non-rs .1 to a non-rs .2?

Thanks

f4 plt

I had a 2007 997.1 GT 3 and now a 2011 997.2 and the difference is significant. Don't know what your budget is but Porsche of San Antonio just got a great looking low mileage 2011 in and on the floor.... No it is not mine , as mine is a keeper.

mrsullivan

Caveat: I am hugely biased in my response to your post...

I drove both prior to buying my 2011. Honestly the price difference was probably a little less when I was evaluating. But my seat of pants judgment was that the .2 was a huge step forward and worth the premium to me. I think that 4.0 and no more Mezger/stick has lifted the .2 RS, and that in turn lifted the .2 GT3. I just listed mine for sale and its in Texas. Its a powderpuff never tracked concours type car, so not sure if that is what you are looking for or willing to pay the premium, but just FYI since its in your backyard. You are welcome to see it and drive it if you are ever down in Austin. Regardless, good luck with your decision and search.

BartN (TX)

Just took a look at it. Nice car with the right seats but wrong brakes for me.

That said, I'm not sure I'm committed to the upgrade yet. I'm just trying to get a feel for how much improved it is.

BartN (TX)

Thanks. It was actually your for-sale post that got me thinking about it again. I was actually in your great city last weekend watching the races at COTA. Have a friend in Dallas with an 11 GT3 that I need to bum a drive in. I think it'll be hard to really tell the difference on streets though.

mrsullivan

that was not my experience, but YMMV of course, let us know how it goes...

one of the best kept secrets at COTA is the annual SVRA races, coming up here in a couple weeks... hundreds of 60s-70s Porsches descend on Austin and spend a weekend racing on COTA, open pits, open paddocks, an absolute feast for the eyes/ears...

f4 plt

Saw your post about brakes . The one at Porsche of San Antonio has PCCB's as does mine and I swear by them. Have them on my Spyder as well. If you track a lot they can become expensive, but for street driving with some mild tracking an autocrossing thrown in they will out last steel rotors, are half the weight (significant reduction in unstrung weigh an thus improved handling) AND little or no brake dust YEA !

BartN (TX)

I see it's October 8th thru 11th. That may just work out for me. Thanks for the heads up.

AGO

I tried both back to back on the street before buying, limited speed but clear difference in torque and suspension (more compliant), plus a better interior and PCM if it matters to you. PASM works well, better than in the .1 from comments.
I choose .2

F1CrazyDriver

When I was in the market it was a 10-15k difference.

To me, imo, i could not justify it.

I saw a 15kmiles w the right seats and warranty will 2018 going for 90. I passed on it.

To me. Interior is least of my worries. Imo, exterior looks nicer upfront and rear bumpers on .1. However I do like .2 wing a lot. Give kudos to that.

Power- meh. Yup a bit more hump.
Yea it rides firmer.
Hoping my tpc module fixes that use on mine .1

Again IMO

Pros of .1 over .2
- Front + Rear bumpers look nicer
- Less electronics to break
- 5 lugs
- Proven motor w reliability. ( Didn't have the lwfw / bolt coming lose inside the manifold)
- Roof rack system.


Cons of .1 over .2

- Older
- less hp/tq
- Not so good PASM - TPC Unit fix
- Can't fully turn off PSM like .2 ( but found out that .1 really doesn't do jack sh** anyways so its okay--for me, i would not include this as not relevant, but for sake of others )
- Consumes more rear brakes people say ( I don't brake so don't worry on this--for me, i would not include this as not relevant, but for sake of others
)
- Prefer the .2 wing over .1 ( but not enough to replace my taco wing)

limitedslip

Drive both, see what you think but I think it all boils down to how much you can afford!

Looking at the market you can get a .1 with 20k miles in the 80s while a .2 with 30k miles is still 100k plus.

To me it didn't make any sense to pay more for more miles even if the car is better :-p

AGO

Few comments:

lwfw is only on the RS... loose bolts seem to be a consequence of that setup as the std GT3 absorbs vibrations with the heavier fw.

Also it seems there are more events with cooling hoses coming loose on the .1, not a minor point (do your research on that)...

Not only an issue on the wing looks, downforce is quite higher, don't have the data but shake n' bake showed data and you get about 200 lb of downforce vs virtually zero on the .1

a bit extra torque is a nice addition on the 3.8...

steering wheel on the .1 to me is nicer than the std issue on the .2 (you can swap it for the sports wheel in the 4.0 but that's another story $)

good luck with your decision !

JC

F1CrazyDriver

Yea unfortunately all of them suffer with the loss of coolant due to the glued inserts :/ I guess we can avoid that by going to 991's .

tcsracing1

the difference is not substantial. 3.8L, bigger brakes, different valving of shocks, satelite radio option, centerlocks.....

If both cars are out of warranty the delta would have to be 5-10k max to consider.
Natutally you go for the newest you can afford however I personally prefer the 5 lugs and taco wing of .1 Simple Simon.

Given the same money or a 5k max delta I would do the 997.2.

flyingpenguin

Lots of great input here. As said before it boils down to personal appreciation of small aesthetic differences between the two models and the $ delta.

Looks like those with a .2 are happy with their decision just as the .1 owners.

Could it be that both are just absolutely magnificent iterations of an iconic sportscar?