Another one bites the Dust. Sold the RS
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what do you guys see in cayman? it is more expensive to build up than lotus and much more expensive than e46 based racer yet runs about same... i agree bgb or similar based project cars based on cayman r and GTS uptuned 450hp DFI motor are indeed in different category but a standard croc is, well, it is a good car and drives incredibly well but not so special, really, and not so light either.
congrats, nevertheless, by no means i want to doubt your decision, just genuinely curious, that's all.
congrats, nevertheless, by no means i want to doubt your decision, just genuinely curious, that's all.
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I don't recommend the 06-08 Cayman because it is fragile. Many of the problems in the 1999-2008 Cayman/Boxster were resolved with the 2009+ cars.
With the 2009+ cars, no more engine failures, power steering failures, oil ingestion, engine running dry on heavy lateral loads. The transmission is stronger. However, brakes and engine still overheat, but so do the 997 and 991, until you install a 3rd radiator and brake cooling.
The 2013+ cars got bigger brakes, 350mm all around, so with cooling ducts, these brakes should be fine. The car still needs the 3rd radiator. Essentially, a 2013+ Boxster/Cayman S is ready for track days, except the 3rd radiator, brake cooling ducts, track brake fluid, and track pads. This is a track-day ready car in my opinion.
Tested by SportAuto, these are the lap times
Nurburgring:
981 Boxster S PDK 8:04
987.2 Cayman R PDK 8:10
987.2 Cayman S PDK 8:17
987.1 Cayman S 8:25
Hockemheim:
981 Boxster S PDK 1:13.90
987.2 Cayman R PDK 1:12.40
987.2 Cayman S PDK 1:14.20
987.1 Cayman S 1:15.90
I have no doubt that the 981 Cayman S is going to beat the 981 Boxster S at the Ring.
It is available with a manual transmission.
With the 2009+ cars, no more engine failures, power steering failures, oil ingestion, engine running dry on heavy lateral loads. The transmission is stronger. However, brakes and engine still overheat, but so do the 997 and 991, until you install a 3rd radiator and brake cooling.
The 2013+ cars got bigger brakes, 350mm all around, so with cooling ducts, these brakes should be fine. The car still needs the 3rd radiator. Essentially, a 2013+ Boxster/Cayman S is ready for track days, except the 3rd radiator, brake cooling ducts, track brake fluid, and track pads. This is a track-day ready car in my opinion.
Tested by SportAuto, these are the lap times
Nurburgring:
981 Boxster S PDK 8:04
987.2 Cayman R PDK 8:10
987.2 Cayman S PDK 8:17
987.1 Cayman S 8:25
Hockemheim:
981 Boxster S PDK 1:13.90
987.2 Cayman R PDK 1:12.40
987.2 Cayman S PDK 1:14.20
987.1 Cayman S 1:15.90
I have no doubt that the 981 Cayman S is going to beat the 981 Boxster S at the Ring.
It is available with a manual transmission.
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I don't recommend the 06-08 Cayman because it is fragile. Many of the problems in the 1999-2008 Cayman/Boxster were resolved with the 2009+ cars.
With the 2009+ cars, no more engine failures, power steering failures, oil ingestion, engine running dry on heavy lateral loads. The transmission is stronger. However, brakes and engine still overheat, but so do the 997 and 991, until you install a 3rd radiator and brake cooling.
The 2013+ cars got bigger brakes, 350mm all around, so with cooling ducts, these brakes should be fine. The car still needs the 3rd radiator. Essentially, a 2013+ Boxster/Cayman S is ready for track days, except the 3rd radiator, brake cooling ducts, track brake fluid, and track pads. This is a track-day ready car in my opinion.
Tested by SportAuto, these are the lap times
Nurburgring:
981 Boxster S PDK 8:04
987.2 Cayman R PDK 8:10
987.2 Cayman S PDK 8:17
987.1 Cayman S 8:25
Hockemheim:
981 Boxster S PDK 1:13.90
987.2 Cayman R PDK 1:12.40
987.2 Cayman S PDK 1:14.20
987.1 Cayman S 1:15.90
I have no doubt that the 981 Cayman S is going to beat the 981 Boxster S at the Ring.
It is available with a manual transmission.
With the 2009+ cars, no more engine failures, power steering failures, oil ingestion, engine running dry on heavy lateral loads. The transmission is stronger. However, brakes and engine still overheat, but so do the 997 and 991, until you install a 3rd radiator and brake cooling.
The 2013+ cars got bigger brakes, 350mm all around, so with cooling ducts, these brakes should be fine. The car still needs the 3rd radiator. Essentially, a 2013+ Boxster/Cayman S is ready for track days, except the 3rd radiator, brake cooling ducts, track brake fluid, and track pads. This is a track-day ready car in my opinion.
Tested by SportAuto, these are the lap times
Nurburgring:
981 Boxster S PDK 8:04
987.2 Cayman R PDK 8:10
987.2 Cayman S PDK 8:17
987.1 Cayman S 8:25
Hockemheim:
981 Boxster S PDK 1:13.90
987.2 Cayman R PDK 1:12.40
987.2 Cayman S PDK 1:14.20
987.1 Cayman S 1:15.90
I have no doubt that the 981 Cayman S is going to beat the 981 Boxster S at the Ring.
It is available with a manual transmission.
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I can understand the Cayman, nice car. Nicer than 991 but you do have to add power and brakes.
3.8l cayman could be great but still 100k. Too close to 991 with warranty. Try Corvette, maybe try old 911 racing. see how GT3 does, wait for the new RS, in the meanwhile try not to hit wall in 4.0. Got it.
I'm going to need time at the track the coming years.
3.8l cayman could be great but still 100k. Too close to 991 with warranty. Try Corvette, maybe try old 911 racing. see how GT3 does, wait for the new RS, in the meanwhile try not to hit wall in 4.0. Got it.
I'm going to need time at the track the coming years.
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The thing is that you need t x51 to get the 3rd radiator pushing the car too close to a gt3 just to get a manual. I seriously need to track a 991gt3 PDK to see if I can learn to left foot brake and can learn to like it while we find out of its track worthy and also must test drive a GT2 before the RS arrives..
The 3.8 Cayman with 3rd radiator and 991 s brakes, manual and the right seats is 100k, but no real warranty, no resale value and still no real track suspension.
That is the car the factory should build and now it's easier and cheaper then ever for them. Should be a Cayman GT3 wannabe for 100k, with the 991 GT3 at 130k that should be delta enough in HP and $$$. I drove the Caymen and thinks is looks and drives great! At 6'4" I fit fine too!! Just angers me to see Porsche hold back a cheap and easy 100HP...
Still we are talking $$ here. Spec out a nice Caymen and stock, without seat it's quickly 75/80k with 325 HP. Weight is awesome at 3000lbs and I'm sure it will be fun. But that's more than a loaded up C7 Corvette with more power and tq than a GT3.
If you spec it like a Cayman its 57k. And apples to apples a year less warranty, but a year longer on the drive train.
It may be ugly (think ok) crappy dealer experience and it might self destruct on the first session, but on paper it has all the right ingredients, right down to the ventilated competition harness ready seats.
The 3.8 Cayman with 3rd radiator and 991 s brakes, manual and the right seats is 100k, but no real warranty, no resale value and still no real track suspension.
That is the car the factory should build and now it's easier and cheaper then ever for them. Should be a Cayman GT3 wannabe for 100k, with the 991 GT3 at 130k that should be delta enough in HP and $$$. I drove the Caymen and thinks is looks and drives great! At 6'4" I fit fine too!! Just angers me to see Porsche hold back a cheap and easy 100HP...
Still we are talking $$ here. Spec out a nice Caymen and stock, without seat it's quickly 75/80k with 325 HP. Weight is awesome at 3000lbs and I'm sure it will be fun. But that's more than a loaded up C7 Corvette with more power and tq than a GT3.
If you spec it like a Cayman its 57k. And apples to apples a year less warranty, but a year longer on the drive train.
It may be ugly (think ok) crappy dealer experience and it might self destruct on the first session, but on paper it has all the right ingredients, right down to the ventilated competition harness ready seats.
Last edited by TRAKCAR; 05-23-2013 at 11:13 PM.
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More power would be nice. John at BGB thinks power (325 hp) on the new car is understated, since it now breathes through both nostrils among other things. He told me that with exhaust, intake and flash that it would reliably put out 350+ hp since the same 3.4L in the 991 puts out 350hp and is the same engine. Sounds good to me. Can't wait to learn more.
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Hi KBS,
Please enjoy your new Cayman, but I'm not sure if I should congrats you as I have yet to meet anyone who do not regret selling their GT3/RS.
I don't think I will ever sell mine as there is absolutely nothing out there that I want to replace it with. Maybe except the 4.0 but I cannot justify its price.
Please enjoy your new Cayman, but I'm not sure if I should congrats you as I have yet to meet anyone who do not regret selling their GT3/RS.
I don't think I will ever sell mine as there is absolutely nothing out there that I want to replace it with. Maybe except the 4.0 but I cannot justify its price.
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Here is the link to the article
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s_first_drive/
Shocking Fact: The 2014 Cayman body is 40% stiffer than the Cayman 987.2, and 100% stiffer than the new 2013 981 Boxster !!!
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Very, very good! Traded mine in the morning, they had already sold the car by late afternoon to someone that had heard about through our local PCA club. Lets just say my trade value was substantially more than I paid for the car originally as a second owner.
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