secretcollector

Porsche seems awfully committed, quite publicly, to the PDK and end of the manual transmission. Regardless of what may happen down the road, that really isn't the point with the 997 4.0.

This car represents the final evolution of a generation - both in body development, engine and transmission. All that follows, from the 991 well into the future, reflects a new era in car development (i.e. sales). Bigger cars, more frills, and frankly, a more accessible car for a wider audience. Nothing wrong with this approach, all brands are going this way except for Lamborghini. Even if they strip the 991 down and drop a manual into for a very limited edition, it will be a much different car than what it replaced.

Look at it this way - of all marques selling for more than $1M at auction regularly, those garnering the highest prices are cars that inevitably are slower and simpler than models which replaced them later. This is the difference between collectibility and performance.

Ultimately, it's like sitting at the bar having beers with your friends and debating the greatest player or team of all time - it makes for great conversation but never settles anything. In this case, today, the proof is in the pudding - look around and see how many 4.0's are on the market globally - very, very few. See how they are priced and how quickly they sell. Whether they stay where they are, go up in value or decrease is anyone's guess. Owning a few of them and driving them regularly, I can tell you that the visceral pleasure they provide is a bargain at these prices and other than the GT2RS, there isn't any car I look forward to taking out of my garage more.

996FLT6

2.7 rs's has quite a storied racing history. Does the same hold true for the 4.0 rs other than last in line lineage pedigree? Is the 4.0 rs similar in anyway to the racing versions? Mike

pissedpuppy

good call - love cowgirls - oh, and that's a nice little drive!

Nizer

Just don't see clean, low-mile RS 4.0's going down in price. Too few cars and too much demand. Whatever the 991 RS turns out to be, it won't be a 4.0 RS, just as the RS 4.0 will never be a 73 RS.

NJ-GT

1973 RS near 1,600 units produced ($600k for clean examples)

1972/1973 S over 5,000 units produced ($200k for clean examples)

2011 GT3 RS 4.0 only 600 units produced worldwide ($250k-$275k for clean examples)

The 997RS4.0, 964T 3.6, 993TTS, 959, CGT will reach way higher resale values.

991 Wannabe-GT3 RS will be produced for at least 2 years, and they can easily sell 1,000 units per year just in U.S, and more than 6,000 units worldwide, not too good for resale, considering there will be a 991.2 GT3, 991.2 GT3RS, and more Transformer-Robot-Wannabe-GT3.

Izzone

you must be describing your fiat

P_collector

according to my info more then 2000 2.7RS were built...am I wrong..?

Carrera GT

That's the gist of it.

If there's some dope out there paying a half mill for a sadly un-driven long nose, fine by me, but for the average 73 RS, it's no better than checking account returns and the numbers only get worse once you factor in the cost to carry the car for decades.

For wine, buy 12, drink 6, sell 3 to pay for the whole 12 after a year or two, then keep 3 if they're worth keeping.

As for any RS, I think the consensus, at least here in Rennlistville is universal: drink deep. Life's too short.

aussie jimmy

indeed!

aussie jimmy

higher than what?
than current values? that is for sure, but i don't think they will ever reach the heights set by the 73rs.
remember that it was maybe about
$15000 brand new.
at that same rate, a 4.0 would be worth $10,000,000 in 40 years...don't think so.

secretcollector

OP, a 4800 mile white one has just been listed on AutoTrader.

TRAKCAR

$259K. reasonable price for high option car, pretty close to MSRP I guess.

Not a track junkie LOL:

mooty

u r on a roll my friend. you should do the same with Panerai and RS's and montegrappa (pens).
i failed miserably with RS.
made about 300% return in montegrappa dragons in less than a year
maybe 50% on PAM 127

cheers...

mooty

dont be so sure.
you know US dollar is gonig to worth nothing in short order.
1980 it was 40NT to 1 USD
now 30NT to 1USD.
soon it could be 30USD to 1NT.
it may even devalue so much and be used as carry trade like the almight yen, LMAO.

jest aside, i know your point as well as Rad's.
it's not going to drop too much 4.0 value that is., if at all.
maybe it wont be 10MM in the future.
but it's kind of fun driving the thing and put some wax on it every so often.

what's priceless is i tell max to stand behind the exhaust, look into it, i fire it out at wot. scare him sh*tless watching him jump up in fear then tells me the car is not good, it's too loud. mommy's odyssey is so much quieter...... ugh... i need a new son.

aussie jimmy

hahahahaha!!!