P_collector

Couldnt agree more...exactly the point with the 2.7RS I mentioned here many times..if an 2.7RS at over 2000 produced is woth 350..fine..then a 4.0 will be soon worth the same..maybe not in year..but maybe in 3-7..who knows. If one applies the 2.7RS logic...a 4.0 is still a bargain..

aussie jimmy

all true, but today's gen y are not collectors, romanticists, historians, voyeurs, patrons of the arts....
that era, imo, cannot happen again. maybe in another renaissance period?
we are a dying breed, and the speed of technology and throwaway society is to blame.
people have little time to stop to smell the roses and appreciate the beauty.
a.d.d. is rampant and on the rise.

keep those 4.0's and enjoy them till the end, regardless of what they are worth.

DC640

The dilemma lucky owners of 4.0 has to go through... I wish the normal gt3 cars get special attention.. But who knows.. Only time will tell.

996FLT6

Don't think the guys driving the '73 rs's were thinking about collectibility. Just enjoy driving them. Mike

tcsracing1

I have often wondered about that and what makes the 73RS so hot today and why might the 4.0L follow suit...

I believe that the 73RS became valuable due in part to the 1980's era of over weight and under powered automobiles. Enthusiasts wanted simple, light weight and powerful. The 73RS filled that desire. It also enjoyed success on the race track.

I believe the 4.0RS will be valuable due in part to the future of automatic only tranny, complex automobiles. Enthusiasts will want simple, classic manual transmission 911. The 4.0L being the swang song and engine having had a successful career during its production will fit the bill nicely.

timothymoffat

Some of the great collector cars went through a period of being the undesirable underdog. Just sayin.

Serge944

Exactly.

Not driving a 4.0 in anticipation of a low mileage collectors item in 20 years is a waste of your life.

tcsracing1

Some people store fine wine, others drink it

With a 4.0L, you can always sip it once and awhile and enjoy that if anything it will not depreciate with time.

Targa Tim

Everyone here will continue to lose (lots of) money on their cars hobby. We will be dreaming if we think otherwise.

Having said that, just make sure we hold onto any of our manual sport cars, as we will cry when they stop making them in the near future.

richk

Agree with Serge...its also why I stopped buying Ferrari's. I like to drive my cars and was a taking a beating on the F-cars. If I was spending 250k on a Porsche it would be a GT2RS.

tcsracing1

This is the harsh reality. However we can all dream that someday somebody will want to pay us double what we paid for our cars

Man, i got so many cars and so much money gone into them that I may look into moonlighting at Macdonalds to gain a little extra cash....

gtdoggie

I was the guy who sweated upgrading my 3.8 RS to a 4.0 at msrp 18 months ago and looked to you guys for advice. This thread puts a little smile on my face. Thanks for the guidance guys. 18 months later and the 4.0 feels pretty perfect for me. I had a 73s coupe that was my daily driver for 18 years(sold it too cheap in 1996 for 19,000). Boy did I miss that thing until I found the GT3's. Even though I don't track yet, I still love early morning weekend drives through the canyons at handcuff me speeds, windows down with the sounds of the Allman brothers and Mezger at 8000rpm combined. I keep miles at around 2000/year, so I don't know if I qualify for a garage queen or not but it's all good. I also think that these 4.0's will become prized collectables one day(all of these manual GT3's will!) but then again I'm biased. Anyways, they sure are a lot of fun and quite purty to look at. Good luck to the OP and hopes he finds one.

mooty

no time to drive it much but 200 miles last weekend from SF to muir woods muir beach pt Reyes mt home inn b4 the RVs show up. get some mocha and cheese at cow girls. oyster at hog island that's what's all
about. and yea I shift at redline. u have to hear it when she 'comes'

trk I will find something else.

totally nor driving the car is not me

P_collector

Fair and honest point, but look at prices for 964 turbo 3.6..I said to my friends 10 years ago this car will be worth more in 10 years - people laughed at me - and look where we are today. Same for 964 RS etc..so there are cars having seen a sharp uprise in the last 5 years. In fact having invested 100k 6 years ago in both a 3.6 turbo and an 964RS would have yielded better returns then the average property market..one can also loose money on a house or other things. Personally, I would prefer 10 times more loosing money on my cars..(because Im a car nut and every minute driving is pure joy) compared to loosing money on property on something else or if I simply bought my home it too expensive. I would be mad to see that my neighbour just bought the same place for half price - especially if one invested time and energy in his own property. But I wouldnt be mad if my 4.0 was worth 10 bucks and his prius 9 bucks..because he wouldnt know what he is missing for the 1 extra buck.

To each of us his own..but to those who say that our cars will be worth nothing in 30 years because there will be no gas left and only hyper unemployment..dont think that investing in art, property or anything else would look much better then.

We either stay all here..or the ship is sinking - for all us - the top row of the ship will be occupied by chinese anyway..and neither by EU or US buddies..

Sorry for this excursion towards politics..

P_collector

Im like you..track or no track..for a any 997 GT3-GT2..it only matters to drive, the better the nature, the higher the thrill...

PS: forgot to mention one thing - Wolfgang Hatz (R&D boss of Porsche) got a 4.0 Porsche shortly after he started his job there..isnt that a coincidence? The guy who is trying to sell us a a 991 GT3 pdk only - owns (as far as I know, this is his only Porsche, besides daily use of company cars) a 4.0. Maybe he wants to secure his pension too...