Originally Posted by kyrocks

I'm a 37 year old happily married guy with 5 kids and a small *****. Tiny. I needed an RS to compensate for my shortcomings. I was hoping it would attract younger women so i could move away from my original wife and children to something new and non original. Driving the RS gives me the attention in life that my guards red GT3 with a SW bypass didn't. Furthermore, unlike you, i am not secure enough in my accomplishments in life so the RS was the answer. Being a pediatric surgeon, saving babies' lives, and making a difference in someone elses life was not enough reward for me. Doing that and having a regular GT3 in the garage was not enough. I was so insecure that buying the RS gave me the attention ive always needed. Now i am a respected member of the community because i chose an RS and feel more accomplished. Holy crap world - look at me!! You're right, the GT3 is WAY more subtle and quieter for day to day driving. It is only for those gentleman who wish to be subtle and fly under the radar. No one looks at you when you have a GT3. The car is pure subtle unassuming elegance for those who have no shortcomings, have perfect non broken families, and are satisfied with their life accomplishments. I get it.

Come on man, give me a break. You can't state what you did and say please don't flame me. Generalizing and stating people who buy the RS are looking for validation and are insecure is BS for the most part. I have owned both cars. The GT3 is phenomenal. The RS, simply put, is a better car. Drive them - street or track. Is it worth the extra money? To me and any car enthusiast/track rat it definitely was. Should I buy a cup car? Maybe, but I enjoy the occasional street drive and fewer hassles of having a street drivable car. BTW, the RS is faster...look at lap times compared to GT3. No one buys a Porsche for "top speed."

We are just trying to help the OP make the right decision for himself based on comparing the actual cars, not the emotions, attention, or validation it may bring. Saying that is rude and ignorant. I just don't understand what went through your mind when you wrote that and put a label on all RS drivers based on misconceptions and your perceived reality. IMHO, the majority of RS drivers I have met are down to earth, successful people who have genuine interest in Motorsport. Sure there is the occasional young poseur racer boy who bought it with daddy's money, but that's the exception, and he probably wouldn't be reading a technical forum with attention to details and performance that Rennlist provides. Even if he does, good for him...what did he ever do to you? Live your life and focus on yourself and your interests, not what people may think of you. There is nothing wrong with having a non-RS and I'm sure you and your wife enjoy it immensely. You should, it is a fine raw sports car. However, saying you chose it because it is less flashy and draws marginally less attention than an RS which is for those who are insecure with their accomplishments is flawed. On the other hand, this is probably the exact response you wanted and I fell for it. Oh well.

Next time you're driving around in your plain Jane GT3 with your original wife in the passenger seat and see some of us RS drivers around (with bright stickers looking for attention), please don't judge us. We aren't judging you.

Originally Posted by kyrocks

I'm a 37 year old happily married guy with 5 kids and a small *****. Tiny. I needed an RS to compensate for my shortcomings. I was hoping it would attract younger women so i could move away from my original wife and children to something new and non original. Driving the RS gives me the attention in life that my guards red GT3 with a SW bypass didn't. Furthermore, unlike you, i am not secure enough in my accomplishments in life so the RS was the answer. Being a pediatric surgeon, saving babies' lives, and making a difference in someone elses life was not enough reward for me. Doing that and having a regular GT3 in the garage was not enough. I was so insecure that buying the RS gave me the attention ive always needed. Now i am a respected member of the community because i chose an RS and feel more accomplished. Holy crap world - look at me!! You're right, the GT3 is WAY more subtle and quieter for day to day driving. It is only for those gentleman who wish to be subtle and fly under the radar. No one looks at you when you have a GT3. The car is pure subtle unassuming elegance for those who have no shortcomings, have perfect non broken families, and are satisfied with their life accomplishments. I get it.

Come on man, give me a break. You can't state what you did and say please don't flame me. Generalizing and stating people who buy the RS are looking for validation and are insecure is BS for the most part. I have owned both cars. The GT3 is phenomenal. The RS, simply put, is a better car. Drive them - street or track. Is it worth the extra money? To me and any car enthusiast/track rat it definitely was. Should I buy a cup car? Maybe, but I enjoy the occasional street drive and fewer hassles of having a street drivable car. BTW, the RS is faster...look at lap times compared to GT3. No one buys a Porsche for "top speed."

We are just trying to help the OP make the right decision for himself based on comparing the actual cars, not the emotions, attention, or validation it may bring. Saying that is rude and ignorant. I just don't understand what went through your mind when you wrote that and put a label on all RS drivers based on misconceptions and your perceived reality. IMHO, the majority of RS drivers I have met are down to earth, successful people who have genuine interest in Motorsport. Sure there is the occasional young poseur racer boy who bought it with daddy's money, but that's the exception, and he probably wouldn't be reading a technical forum with attention to details and performance that Rennlist provides. Even if he does, good for him...what did he ever do to you? Live your life and focus on yourself and your interests, not what people may think of you. There is nothing wrong with having a non-RS and I'm sure you and your wife enjoy it immensely. You should, it is a fine raw sports car. However, saying you chose it because it is less flashy and draws marginally less attention than an RS which is for those who are insecure with their accomplishments is flawed. On the other hand, this is probably the exact response you wanted and I fell for it. Oh well.

Next time you're driving around in your plain Jane GT3 with your original wife in the passenger seat and see some of us RS drivers around (with bright stickers looking for attention), please don't judge us. We aren't judging you.

Originally Posted by Izzone

The 3.8 gt3rs motor should time out when a 996 cup does.....possibly sooner. The higher hp and max rpm of a 3.8 might wear it quicker....the 4.0 even sooner. Cups don't have variocam garbage. Lets say 120ish hours for either

Cup car has hubs / axles designed for slicks.....street car hubs for sport cups. If you run Hoosiers or slicks on a street car don't fool yourself your hubs are free from wear

Transmission on both cars wears almost the same, 996 cup trans has a few more robust parts. Cups have a longer lasting more robust (spring free) clutch

Brakes rotors on a 996 cup are much cheaper.....pads last longer due to weight

If you run Hoosier on a RS, slicks on a cup should cost about the same

If you haven't monoballed your street car will eventually have to when you destroy the rubber from the Hoosier grip

I can tell you I've ran the numbers backwards and forwards.... My RS has 13,500 track miles so far. At 4k miles th RS is ok....same with a cup. They both wear the same don't fool yourself

Problem with 996 cup is there is a lot of junk.....I'm sorting through it now

Originally Posted by kyrocks

I'm a 37 year old happily married guy with 5 kids and a small *****. Tiny. I needed an RS to compensate for my shortcomings. I was hoping it would attract younger women so i could move away from my original wife and children to something new and non original. Driving the RS gives me the attention in life that my guards red GT3 with a SW bypass didn't. Furthermore, unlike you, i am not secure enough in my accomplishments in life so the RS was the answer. Being a pediatric surgeon, saving babies' lives, and making a difference in someone elses life was not enough reward for me. Doing that and having a regular GT3 in the garage was not enough. I was so insecure that buying the RS gave me the attention ive always needed. Now i am a respected member of the community because i chose an RS and feel more accomplished. Holy crap world - look at me!! You're right, the GT3 is WAY more subtle and quieter for day to day driving. It is only for those gentleman who wish to be subtle and fly under the radar. No one looks at you when you have a GT3. The car is pure subtle unassuming elegance for those who have no shortcomings, have perfect non broken families, and are satisfied with their life accomplishments. I get it.

Come on man, give me a break. You can't state what you did and say please don't flame me. Generalizing and stating people who buy the RS are looking for validation and are insecure is BS for the most part. I have owned both cars. The GT3 is phenomenal. The RS, simply put, is a better car. Drive them - street or track. Is it worth the extra money? To me and any car enthusiast/track rat it definitely was. Should I buy a cup car? Maybe, but I enjoy the occasional street drive and fewer hassles of having a street drivable car. BTW, the RS is faster...look at lap times compared to GT3. No one buys a Porsche for "top speed."

We are just trying to help the OP make the right decision for himself based on comparing the actual cars, not the emotions, attention, or validation it may bring. Saying that is rude and ignorant. I just don't understand what went through your mind when you wrote that and put a label on all RS drivers based on misconceptions and your perceived reality. IMHO, the majority of RS drivers I have met are down to earth, successful people who have genuine interest in Motorsport. Sure there is the occasional young poseur racer boy who bought it with daddy's money, but that's the exception, and he probably wouldn't be reading a technical forum with attention to details and performance that Rennlist provides. Even if he does, good for him...what did he ever do to you? Live your life and focus on yourself and your interests, not what people may think of you. There is nothing wrong with having a non-RS and I'm sure you and your wife enjoy it immensely. You should, it is a fine raw sports car. However, saying you chose it because it is less flashy and draws marginally less attention than an RS which is for those who are insecure with their accomplishments is flawed. On the other hand, this is probably the exact response you wanted and I fell for it. Oh well.

Next time you're driving around in your plain Jane GT3 with your original wife in the passenger seat and see some of us RS drivers around (with bright stickers looking for attention), please don't judge us. We aren't judging you.

Originally Posted by PJS996GT3

If we bought what women thought we should buy, we would all be driving turbos
Torque is the panty dropper

If you are choosing between gt3 and RS - err on the side of over doing it and backing down if you are not happy

If you like it plain, that is good - white RS, debadge and remove decals
Debadged decal delete white RS is the fastest of them all anyway :-)

The RS is well worth the premium IMHO - gears, aero, resale, and never having to wonder if you should have... Aka peace of mind

Originally Posted by ncgt3

My reality is that I'm a happily married 45yr old man (original wife w/ children) that is secure enough with my accomplishments to not need validation from others. I wanted a reliable and capable car for one of my hobbies. I believe that the RS is for those whom are looking for validation NOT speed. If speed were the 1st choice, a race car for less $$ would be the clear choice.

Originally Posted by ncgt3

PJS996GT3 - that is a great looking RS. Had that been available when I was in the market, I would've certainly considered it. Question - when you see a white RS with the red mirrors, grill etc, are those stickers that can be removed like the fender graphics? What about the wheels - easy to paint or take back to a silver or black?