View Poll Results: Did you own an M3 before your GT3
Yes
131
68.23%
No
35
18.23%
I'm super cool and owned the GT3 first
16
8.33%
Who cares, onto more DE Cup championship smack talk
10
5.21%
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How many of you owned a M3 before their GT3?
06-26-2013, 04:12 PM
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You're never too old to learn, only too old to mend...
I'll be 43 in two weeks so I don't feel all that young anymore. One of our instructors is 73 years old and he's pretty quick. Former airline pilot I think. He got into bikes after he retired so He hasn't been doing it his whole life.
I'll be 43 in two weeks so I don't feel all that young anymore. One of our instructors is 73 years old and he's pretty quick. Former airline pilot I think. He got into bikes after he retired so He hasn't been doing it his whole life.
hum.... I think I look great on a duc..... there, another money pit u dug for me!
06-26-2013, 05:20 PM
#169
I happen to marshal/instruct for the local Duc dealer up here in PDX. No tax in Orygun, you could buy one up here just don't register it down there and you're golden.
06-27-2013, 02:14 AM
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I understand your point, however the wild card is sport bikes. I'm a track day instructor and have been doing track days on bikes since I sold my C4S back in '04.
I've done a DE in my old RS4 at PIR and at least in that car it was a pretty tame experience. Doing a DE in my GT3 has some appeal albeit limited. I'm already dialed with bikes, the learning curve is much higher for bikes than cars and it took me a while to get where I am. Also the costs associated in doing DE's in cars compared to track days on bikes is much higher, and for what? For example:
Bike: '12 KTM RC8R Race Spec ($20K MSRP)
Suspension work: closed cartridge inserts for forks, stronger rear spring, $1400.
Gear: helmet, leathers, back protector, boots and gloves, roughly $2400. Lasts a couple years.
Tires: Dunlop UK N-Tech slicks $538 mounted. They last a good 5 track days.
Brake Pads: $120. They last all season. 16 track days for me.
Oil change: after every 4th day, $80-$90.
Brake Fluid: change half way through season $12-.
To conclude I just come from a different perspective and one that I'm wondering where it will lead to. I drive my truck as a DD. It's a nice truck, boring to drive but I need it to tow my bike trailer. Love my GT3 but it's a little bit of a pain and I admit kind of a waste to drive on surface streets so its use is limited. A new M4 with a twin turbo straight six sounds like a great daily driver that I could enjoy on some back roads once in a while.
I've done a DE in my old RS4 at PIR and at least in that car it was a pretty tame experience. Doing a DE in my GT3 has some appeal albeit limited. I'm already dialed with bikes, the learning curve is much higher for bikes than cars and it took me a while to get where I am. Also the costs associated in doing DE's in cars compared to track days on bikes is much higher, and for what? For example:
Bike: '12 KTM RC8R Race Spec ($20K MSRP)
Suspension work: closed cartridge inserts for forks, stronger rear spring, $1400.
Gear: helmet, leathers, back protector, boots and gloves, roughly $2400. Lasts a couple years.
Tires: Dunlop UK N-Tech slicks $538 mounted. They last a good 5 track days.
Brake Pads: $120. They last all season. 16 track days for me.
Oil change: after every 4th day, $80-$90.
Brake Fluid: change half way through season $12-.
To conclude I just come from a different perspective and one that I'm wondering where it will lead to. I drive my truck as a DD. It's a nice truck, boring to drive but I need it to tow my bike trailer. Love my GT3 but it's a little bit of a pain and I admit kind of a waste to drive on surface streets so its use is limited. A new M4 with a twin turbo straight six sounds like a great daily driver that I could enjoy on some back roads once in a while.
As far as track days, I can't speak to what it's like on a bike, but I'm sure it is tamer in anything with four wheels short of a formula car or cart, but it is safer!
Oh yeah, I can't believe I didn't post in this thread earlier. Serial M3 owner previously. E36, E46, E92. Now own the wagon- which with my BBS and coil-overs hits the sweet spot around the PACNW (I can hear the radio!). Just needs about 200 more HP! Fantasy about conversion to M3 V8...
Here's my last M3:
Here's the wagon (see the family resemblance?)
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06-27-2013, 04:17 AM
#172
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06-27-2013, 04:20 AM
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06-27-2013, 11:52 AM
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Your problem, like mine is that we live in the PACNW where the roads suck so bad it's all you can do to hear the radio over the noise of the tires in any high performance car. Even my E92 M3 was a pain around here with the tire noise. The GT3 is unbearable. Our rutted roads just about spoil any drive in any car, now if we were in Nashville (where I used to live) or Germany where smooth roads are the norm, the GT3 would be awesome on any drive.
As far as track days, I can't speak to what it's like on a bike, but I'm sure it is tamer in anything with four wheels short of a formula car or cart, but it is safer!
As far as track days, I can't speak to what it's like on a bike, but I'm sure it is tamer in anything with four wheels short of a formula car or cart, but it is safer!
Another problem with the roads up here; Imo there is no reason for studded tires. With new tire technology there are options available that won't groove the roads.
Track days on bikes are likely very similar to DE's but many (probably most) are adverse to bikes from hearing a lifetime of horror stories about them. The track is the very safest place to ride and hone your skills without worry of all the hazards of riding on the street. Most who go down at the track don't get hurt at all, just a few bumps and bruises most of the time.
06-27-2013, 11:55 AM
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06-27-2013, 05:20 PM
#177
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Never had an M3, but I did have a 330i before the GT3. I never thought of it as anything other than a DD type of car. But since then I’ve been impressed by the performance of several gutted, caged, re-sprung M3’s that I’ve seen on track. A friend of mine recently started tracking an e30 M3 with an S52 motor swap and other track goodies. Quite fast, and it looks great in motion.
06-28-2013, 06:16 PM
#178
Here's a picture of my E92 M3 (former daily driver) which I sold a few weeks...
06-29-2013, 01:56 AM
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