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Old 01-16-2013, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Seeing car54 drive is like watching a great lap of myself


Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
No, I am suggesting exiting T1 at the far end of the track out curbing on the right and straight-lining it into T3.
So...then what do you do about T2?
Old 01-16-2013, 04:22 PM
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Correct. No need to widen entry. Go from track out curbing of T1 across the little point of pavement between 1 and 3 and into the brake zone of 3 on the far right side of the track. Easy peasy!

For all intents & purposes, T2 does not exist.
Old 01-16-2013, 04:24 PM
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Car54, next time we are both at Sebring at the same time, let me take you out in your car at 80% and show you what I mean...
Old 01-16-2013, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I see the yellow line now.
I think I also come in a little too hot, so I brake longer and dont want to be too close to the wall as the car is not stable.

Good stuff.
Yeah, it is really easy to out-brake ourselves in T1, and/or brake too hard and pitch the car on its nose, neither of which aids in carrying entry & mid corner speed. I typically will brake relatively softly in 1 (as I do in 17...ask Teo about his observations of this and how it is markedly different), keep the chassis squatted on all fours, and begin turning in (with very slow hands and a shallow steering angle) before the end of the pit wall. This gives me a VERY stable race car all the way to the wall (I will go within 1' or less of the wall) and then all the way to track out, irrespective of throttle & bumps, etc.

JMHO...
Old 01-16-2013, 04:33 PM
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A BMW M3 Sedan almost entering the Coffee DE Cup, awesome.
Old 01-16-2013, 05:13 PM
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forget t2 even exists - there is a bit of extra pavement at t2 so you can cut across it there almost dipping right side tires off the track, then head straight, no more turning, which will point you to the middle or left side of the track for entry to t3.
Old 01-16-2013, 06:44 PM
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NJ-GT
"What is interesting is that your race car would run in the TT1 class for NASA Time Trials, the same class where a GT3 RS 4.0 runs."

I don't know the rules of NASA TT but are you saying these two cars should be in same TT class? Or are you amazed they would be in the same class? I am.
Old 01-16-2013, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Brinkley
NJ-GT
"What is interesting is that your race car would run in the TT1 class for NASA Time Trials, the same class where a GT3 RS 4.0 runs."

I don't know the rules of NASA TT but are you saying these two cars should be in same TT class? Or are you amazed they would be in the same class? I am.
Brinkley

NASA TT1 is basicly HP to Weight with some minor adj for tires etc. So yes the 7.2 GT3/RS would fall into TT1 sling with the cheater Fiat.

Peter
Old 01-16-2013, 07:19 PM
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what is this thing, super solo?
Old 01-16-2013, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Agio
what is this thing, super solo?
it is like solo lapping but for those who wear capes....


everybody is really fast, passing everywhere is allowed and as close to racing as i have seen.
Old 01-16-2013, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Car54
Can you watch the first 30 seconds of this video? Am I doing this left-right-left? I'm not straight to the braking zone to T3, that's for sure.

Thanks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt_0I...CwmPnQ&index=2
good driving!
very smooth
Old 01-16-2013, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
IMO one thing you can do in T1 is start your turn in much sooner but with less steering angle, in other words make it a much gentler arc...and get closer to the wall, maybe putting the left tires inside the painted line. This give you a better arc and makes track out easier. This means more entry, mid corner, and exit speed. In addition, again IMO, after you are tracking out, you are still steering left (notice how your car ends up close to mid track in T2?). There is no need for this, and it introduces needless instability into the chassis. Go wheels straight at T1 track out, and drive that line to the brake zone of T3.
The one thing VR suggested to me and help me a lot in T1 is to hold the car at the apex a touch longer. This has worked wonders for me and I am able to go full throttle and ease out some of the nasty bumps at T1 track out that makes my car want to skip right off the track.

I went back and looked at a lot of my track video's and data and I'm at 80mph at T1 apex...sometimes 81. Chris Hall's data has my car at 82-83mph steering his azz off though...and this was on R888's too.
Old 01-16-2013, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FLA997
+1 Peter= Butter
Yup...exactly!
Old 01-16-2013, 10:30 PM
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Mike, many people think of the apex as a specific point, when in fact in many corners at many tracks, the apexes are relatively long expanses. At Sebring, IMHO, these "elongated apexes" include to some extent or other T1, T5, T15, T15a, and T16 (in addition to T17, obviously).
Old 01-16-2013, 10:34 PM
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Agreed!


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