Izzone

Yes, and Porsche caliper is fine too

911GT3

The CUP car guys run Porsche brakes and they seem to be pretty fast ....

Izzone

I think only if they have too, not saying its not good enough

And a barely taper a pad, and by the time they are tapered most would throw them in the trash anyways

Most cars at alms races use the high end brembo caliper

savyboy

Randy I agree with you. OE PCCB w/P40 pads seem to me to have a strong bite, almost grabby and I too had a challenge trailbraking with them. Hard to modulate.

MovIts much easier to modulate and easeeee out of the brakes.

TRAKCAR

Until you go to Road America..

I'd love to get the feel for them sometimes

mdrums

Depends on which racing sanctioning body these Cup cars are running in...but...They have to run certain brake pkgs due to rules...same as tire sizes, all due to rules.

What Savy is getting at with this Motiv brake pkg is not neccesarily you will be faster but that the Motiv brakes will far out last any other brakes on the market and that they feel much better than the stock Porsche PCCB's.

savyboy

If you can make it over here for the Oct 26-28 weekend, I will put you in the drivers seat for a few laps Would be incredibly awesome to get some representatives of the East Coast Crew here for the event

You got it Mike! I have always hated having to flip pads every two track days and then replacing them at 4-5. And being at an event and worrying or even leaving early because I was almost out of pads. Or watching those wonderfully light but fragile PCCB rotor$ commit $uicide as each track day pa$$e$

There are plenty of threads about the shortcomings of the OE brakes and I won't waste pixels rehashing it here. If a person wants to sit down and review ongoing consumable costs, hassle factor and down time during brake servicing, better brake feel and modulation, residual value, for some folks this solution is compelling.

LastMezger

Impressive. I'd just start braking a bit earlier though as I'm never going to be Schumacher anyway ;-)

911SLOW

You think that the feel of the PCCB sucks? You've prolly never driven a car from another manufacturer with ceramics..
Especially their mid 2000 editions..
We can accuse Porsche for a lot of things, PCCB price and longevity included but feel? Nope.


Pete glad for you buddy that these exceeded your expectations!
I know from first hand that it was a long quest and a ballsy move. All pioneers have those issues..

savyboy

Whew! That is a fact brother! One hell of a challenging path The final product is however everything I had hoped and then some.

Now I can just sit back and do 30 track events and not need to do any maintenance to the brakes That is my payback...

SSTHO

Thanks Pete for this review! Something I would have never tried, but I find the right track car I want to keep forever, I would certainly look into these.

Izzone, not sure if driving a few laps around is a fair assessment of PCCB feel. I had them on my 7.1 RS and really didn't like them at first because I felt they were quite binary (either completely on or off and tough to modulate) and very different from OEM Porsche steel brakes. However, when I tracked them, I got used to them and loved them.

Ur20v

Well I'm with you there, very rarely do I buy anything except groceries in Oz and if I had the chance to import them i would!!

ur's funky, now that's a new one I haven't heard them called but I know what you mean. Had lots, from one of the earliest cars ever imported to the uk through MB's to 20v, standard to a massively modified 800bhp monster. Also worked on A1's, A2's and a pikes peak replica briefly (The late Tom Hamonds hill climb car).

Cheers
Jay

TRAKCAR

What airport do I fly into?

I'm jealous. Do I still have to change the oil?

+1 for being test pilot and all the reporting.
"not sure if driving a few laps around is a fair assessment of PCCB feel."
Right. Exactly. I need at least several hundred laps in Pete's car to properly evaluate these brakes

savyboy

Reno. Smallish but nice terminal. You don't have to walk a million miles to get around it. 40 minute drive from there to the track. All highway to/from and we don't have traffic jams here

Lol, I wish not. Fluids, engine/tranny/brake, as always still should be changed after every 4 track days if you want to be conservative. I know you were joking with me here

But how great would it be to not have to muck-about with pads and rotors for a whole "season" (or two?).

Hmmm

Izzone

Yes I think the feel sucks, but I am comparing to PFC steel set up