savyboy

I have been posting for a while now on the MovIt brakes that I have been experimenting with on my cars. First with OE sized Carbon/Silicon/Carbide rotors only, then 396mm/362mm f/r rotors only and finally the 396mm/380mm rotor and billet caliper kit.

Had the opportunity to get 4 track days on the new kit with OE P40 type compound pads and recently 2 more days on a new "P45" type compound that has been developed by Pagid for ceramic rotors to try and capture the pros of P40/P50 without the drawbacks of either.

Bottom line- for those to whom the value proposition makes sense, it is a simply amazing braking solution. Over two track days the pads wore approx .3mm, from 16mm to 15.7mm thickness (includes backing plate). That is some crazy stuff if you think about it.

Rotors:

• Last forever, never wear. Go from car to car to car.
• Never warp.
• Physically much stronger than OE Porsche PCCB.

Calipers:

• Billet- withstands twice the PSI braking pressure before deformation compared to OE.
• Rigid caliper + Resized pistons = No more tapered pad wear.
• Rock solid brake pedal.

New "P45" PADS:

• Longer wearing than P40.
• Easier to modulate than P40.
• Great bite when cold/wet unlike P50.
• Not abrasive to rotors like P50

Overall Observations:

• Ultimate inspiration of confidence.
• Cost of consumables greatly reduced.
• Impossible to fade the brakes.
• Better modulation vs OE Steel or PCCB.
• Rear of car is rock solid under hard braking. Zero tail wag.
• Open top rear caliper design allows pad change without removing calipers.
• Weight of calipers/rotor system falls between that of OE PCCB/Steel system. But the MovIt system is several magnitudes more capable than either.
• They look cool as hell.

The one single drawback:

• Approx 5mm clearance between caliper body and wheel allows bits and pieces of gravel to get caught and scratches both. Cosmetic and the price of admission to F1 technology is how I view this.

If you want more info, Tom Frederico (Tom@tfent.com) is the USA distributor (I have no financial association). The "P45" is not publicly available yet and I know nothing about when they will be. For currently tracking PCCB owners, it won't be soon enough that is for sure

It is an incredible system, and currently the best money can buy. Personally I am thrilled to leave the world of pad flipping, fragile OE PCCB rotors and chunking pads. At current rate of pad wear, it is looking like I will get 25-30 track days on a set of pads, that would be a 5x or 6x improvement from OE.

ir_fuel

That setup looks sick!

But I am afraid the price will be as sick unfortunately

hesperus

i just heard back from MOVIT's distributor in S.E. Asia, and they quoted me $US 24,500 before shipping, for a complete kit (rotors + calipers).

ouch!

savyboy

Considered in a vacuum of other factors, it would certainly shock. For me the thought process went like this (let's say 30 track days as one of the variables):

Spec new car with steel brakes instead of PCCB- save $8200 (but still have weight benefits).
5:1 pad life - save $4500 parts + $2000 labor.
Mid-life pad flips - labor/hassle factor $1500.
PCCB rotors (worn out)- $18,000 or ? how much in steel rotors (personally don't know how long they last)?
Confidence/stopping power - $? (priceless?)
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$34,200 "savings" which is more than the cost of this system. The more track days you do, the more the math works out. Also consider residual value if resold and/or value of rotors going to your next car and so on. There are a number of ways to consider the value proposition. I realize I was having my cake and eating it to in the math above by including steel and expensing PCCB

That is way cheaper than in the US and if you work the maths, a bargain.

hesperus

you know what, i just realized he may have been quoting me in $US, not Singapore dollars... in which case, its over $US 30k for the system.

i guess too rich for my blood, considering i don't track anywhere close to as frequently or as hard as you do!

keep the updates coming however, love what you've done to your car!

mdrums

I had to sit when I saw this price.....WOW! I'm usually good at talking myself into things and justifying costs of most things...but I just can't fathom the cost of this brake kit. Even resale...who has the money to buy it anyway?

savyboy

~$30k certainly sounds more realistic

There are currently less than ten oversize rotor kits and full kits in the wild in the US. As I have always said this is not for everone but a specific group of GT3 owners can make a quite compelling case for investment in one.

I am thrilled to drive on a single set of brakes for 30 track days. Reduced hassle factor alone is worth $$$$ to me.

mdrums

Kind of like do I buy airline tickets for travel for my business career...or....go baller and buy my own G6.

GrantG

Very interesting - thanks for the post.

Ur20v

I had a quote from the Australian distributor 9 months ago, wait for it.... $43,396 including GST and postage.... all I can say is wow, when I came too.

Jay

TB993tt

+1, really enjoyed fantasizing about a set of these but along with Akrapovic exhausts way beyond my man maths thresholds of $$$$$ pain

What is even more frustrating is the discs are made very close to where I live.

aussie jimmy

does anybody buy parts locally anymore?

get them from the u.s.

ps: the ur quattros were a funky car!

deputydog95

I don't get it. What's wrong with the porsche brakes? If you don't want to burn up the ceramics, just put steel on. Problem solved.

Izzone

Some people have money burning a hole in their pockets.......like the young Eurotrash you hang out with.......

Me persoanly, I have driven a couple of PCCB cars on the track (Nick Wongs most recently)....I hate the feel. It is like a lightswitch opposed to a dimmer switch of PFC08. I try to drag the brake into a corner lightly and the nose stays planted

Savy.....maybe your set-up is different for feel......but the Porsche factory stuff sucks. Maybe it is good for some cars and cafe guy that doesnt like brake dust

deputydog95

Could you just put pfc steel rotors and 08's on there instead?