Xico

GT2rs are currently being sold around 200k - 250k. The 2008 GT2 are being sold around 120k - 150k. My question is as follows. Is the GT2RS 100k better than a GT2? With the extra 100k you save you can invest 20k and make a great track car. Or am I mistaken?

wanna911

You are correct. You can easily make a better track car with with 20-30k, but it will never be as valuable.

The GT2 RS just has not taken it's hit yet, and likely will be slower due to it's rarity and being one of the last Mezgers.

TurboS

GT2 is not a bad track car to begin with.
I Don't think it will even take 20k to match the performance of the RS,
Just make sure the GT2 you are looking at has the sport bucket seats.

Nick Wong

Agree, not as valuable, but for different reasons- GT2 is an older model, RS has more development from the factory on the engine and suspension, many people prefer the newer rear bumper cover and taillights, and also because it's the last turbocharged Mezger based car. The other issue is the turbocharged GT cars are generally misunderstood and mismarketed so the wrong people buy them new (and consequently let them go quickly because the car is a serious machine and not a boulevard cruiser).

The RS and older GT2 were supposedly made to the same production level- 500 units worldwide if I'm not mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong. So they are equally rare.

Xico

So, a GT2 with a modded the motor, supension and the brakes would be able to reasonably keep up with the GT2RS and GT3RS. Driver skill aside.

Xico

The reason for this thread is that it impossible to keep up with the new cars. Every year Porsche adds 50 P better suspension etc...... It is getting to a point where I should just step back and mod the GT2 and be done with it. This is just a hobby to track.

tcsracing1

the GT2RS is for those who do not want to mess with anything for the sake of addition performance.
They want the car as is and enjoy it for what it stands for. It is pretty darn good right out of the box.

A used GT2 is the same car minus a few parts. You can mess with the car all you want and with the right parts it will run faster than a raped ape and gt2rs.......

if you want to have fun, beat on a modded GT2 on and off the track.
If you want to be "that guy" at cars n coffee, then the GT2RS is the ticket.

wanna911

Coilovers, tune and maybe exhaust, aero, weight reduction and most importantly DRIVER and nothing Porsche is making in the near future will make you feel bad.

But no matter how much money you pour in, the car will not do your job too.

CRex

^ That.

The GT2 is a blindingly fast car round a track provided you know how to take advantage of it. Just ask Nick. While there may be "improvements" intrinsic to the RS engine (e.g. titanium conrods--pls correct me if I'm wrong), the majority of modifications can be done aftermarket. Take the intercoolers for example--$900 from Suncoast and you're 15-20bhps closer. A chip and better plumbing (BOV, intakes) later I won't be surprised if you're par on power. Handling you can tweak the suspension till the cows come home and that still wouldn't cost you $100k, being the delta between the two cars...

Targa Tim

Your comment is so true.

I told myself that if one day a newbie with a PDK GT3 or Carrera S is faster than me in my 3.8RS, I will quit track driving...

wanna911

I don't know, that PDK GT3 is going to be fast for sure and tough to beat in a manual 997. Just don't let a noob get you!!

But I can tell you from watching the video in the track videos thread, a PDK GT3 is going to put a lot of time on the 997 GT3's in the shifting department. You have to be in as close to "power shift" mode as possible to even remotely keep up. Slow shifts, and short shifts will destroy your time on the straights.

That's my advice to the GT3 boys when the PDK GT3 arrives. Work on that shifting!!!!!!! If sequential,paddle shift cars surge ahead of you every time you shift, you are way too slow.

NJ-GT

Be prepared to quit.

Quick shifting in these sequential transmissions makes a big difference on the full gas sections.

What's more terrifying is a GT2 or GT2RS with a PDK, no lifting, no boost loses when upshifting, next GT2 will be a monster.

NJ-GT

I would not make a track car out of a GT2 RS, the car is way too exclusive, it would be a garage queen, there are somewhere around 120 units in U.S, that's it.

A 2008 GT2 with a powerkit, minor aero improvements, a new coilover kit, and minor lightening would perform better than a GT2 RS.

Is the GT2 RS $100k worth more than the 08 GT2? My answer is yes, it is the last Turbocharged Mezger, last of a generation.

wanna911

Not really, its a couple of tenths at best unless you shift like grandma. And with some quick hand/foot movement can be pretty much neutralized. I have video of equally accelerating cars with dsg and sequential that do not gain an inch on my shifts.

Aerokitted

Not sure what you're smoking, no offense, but a couple of tenths is car lengths at speed. No human can "neutralize" the advantages of a Porsche transmission robot doing it for you via a dainty pull of a paddle up and down the gears let alone lap after lap after lap.

It is akin to having someone tell you to keep working on your jump shot and you will neutralize Kobe on the courts. Dreams. Hate or love it, but I think Im stating the obvious that PDK and future iterations of it will be the preferred trans choice simply because the consumers will prefer what's fastest. And all the electronic wizardry will be designed around it to make it a slam dunk.

No one enjoys being passed and no one likes throwing out excuses because it makes you look like a dweeb. I love manuals, but the writing is on the wall.

P.S. gt2rs is special to me. Modded gt2 is a modded gt2.