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Old 05-13-2012, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Paul,

You're taking cheating to a whole new level. Your car picked up serious speed with the re-geared transmission, suspension, Hoosiers, headers, and the list goes on and on...
Nice driving !
The gearing is obvious, but the Hoosiers and suspension are also impressive! I think randy drove very fast and Paul looks like he's getting bored..

Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Cheating Validated !!!

Paul's RS 3.8 has a shorter 4th, 5th and 6th gear, the ratios are amazing for Sebring.

3rd gear is stock.
4th gear is getting to 124mph at 8400rpm when it should reach 134mph
5th is getting to 138mph at 7900rpm when it should reach 153mph
6th is getting to 147mph at 7600rpm when it should reach 177mph

Given the new maximum top speed from Paul's car (165mph in 6th gear), he would run out of 6th at Daytona.

Very likely Gavin took the 1.06 5th gear and placed it in 6th, added just 2 new gears for 4th and 5th, and the results are amazing.

I would like to watch a drag race out of T16 between the 4.0RS and Paul's 3.8RS with Akra+Tune+re-gear, my bet is on Paul's car taking the lead over the 4.0RS
Thanks Rad! I knew we can count on you to validate and put numbers on the cheating.

Originally Posted by Izzone
In car......in front for detour trying to get rid of the probe.....a little overdriving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBqN...ature=youtu.be
Again with the monkeying...... Fast enough to be better then me I bet, but thanks to risk taking, not monkeying I think.

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
You still have teh dirt tracker in you!
Makes me want to scream, but he's pulling impressive lap times for the grip. OMG, I go into a seizure if I watch that long enough...
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Originally Posted by Detour
As promised, last session of Randy doing the bootscootin' boogy round Sebring.

http://youtu.be/n0wGC7iZfbQ

http://youtu.be/vj2TVrQyl_k

Paul, I'm very impressed.

Your 450Hp manual tranny GT3 RS 3.8 is getting to 150mph between T16 and T17, on this weather, and your rear wing at 150mph produces a lot of drag.

My Scuderia with the same exit speeds out of T16, a faster transmission, no drag created by a super size rear wing, and almost 200 lbs lighter than your 3.8 GT3 RS reached 148-151mph at the event last month on a little colder conditions.

Randy's 3.8 GT3 RS is getting 141-143 mph on the same section.

My Playstation simulator says you have gained somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 Hp.

Talk now or I will submit a request for a tear down in the good spirit of the DE Cup.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Originally Posted by Detour
As promised, last session of Randy doing the bootscootin' boogy round Sebring.

http://youtu.be/n0wGC7iZfbQ

http://youtu.be/vj2TVrQyl_k

Paul, I'm very impressed.

Your 450Hp manual tranny GT3 RS 3.8 is getting to 150mph between T16 and T17, on this weather, and your rear wing at 150mph produces a lot of drag.

My Scuderia with the same exit speeds out of T16, a faster transmission, no drag created by a super size rear wing, and almost 200 lbs lighter than your 3.8 GT3 RS reached 148-151mph at the event last month on a little colder conditions.

Randy's 3.8 GT3 RS is getting 141-143 mph on the same section.

My Playstation simulator says you have gained somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 Hp.

Talk now or I will submit a request for a tear down in the good spirit of the DE Cup.
He confessed to me

I need a re gear
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Re gear only?? If that engine dynos at 420, I am re gearing my 4.0.
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that engine must have more power with full akrapovic. Re gear is a great advantage, this was never a mystery.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Re gear only?? If that engine dynos at 420, I am re gearing my 4.0.
Yes
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Originally Posted by Izzone
He confessed to me

I need a re gear
Ok, just for the record, I have changed nothing on my car since February. Except for going from PCCB's to PFC rotors and pads. In my mind the biggest thing has been being at Sebring 5 of the six past weekends. Learned a lot of car control, and finally able to bring what has been untapped potential from the car out.

Again, whatever hp/gearing/suspension/tire/wheel/Mojo/cheater adjustments occurred were there when I was getting my doors blown off...

Careful study of you guys at Winterfest has helped a lot, but the seat time has been the primary agent of change IMHO.....

I would love to be there this weekend, just pretty sure it is impossible.
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
that engine must have more power with full akrapovic. Re gear is a great advantage, this was never a mystery.
Gavin told me him and I have simular dyno sheet
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The more comfortable Paul gets with his new suspension, stick tires, gears and so forth and more seat time and his corner speeds will go even higher and he's really going to see straight away speeds. Gears, best race suspension, super sticky tires...great driving Paul!
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Paul, I'm very impressed.

Your 450Hp manual tranny GT3 RS 3.8 is getting to 150mph between T16 and T17, on this weather, and your rear wing at 150mph produces a lot of drag.

My Scuderia with the same exit speeds out of T16, a faster transmission, no drag created by a super size rear wing, and almost 200 lbs lighter than your 3.8 GT3 RS reached 148-151mph at the event last month on a little colder conditions.

Randy's 3.8 GT3 RS is getting 141-143 mph on the same section.

My Playstation simulator says you have gained somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 Hp.

Talk now or I will submit a request for a tear down in the good spirit of the DE Cup.
Your awesome Rad, love reading your posts....
Old 05-13-2012, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Makes me want to scream, but he's pulling impressive lap times for the grip. OMG, I go into a seizure if I watch that long enough...
Yes, indeed he is.

Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Paul, I'm very impressed.

Your 450Hp manual tranny GT3 RS 3.8 is getting to 150mph between T16 and T17, on this weather, and your rear wing at 150mph produces a lot of drag.
Well...here's the thing, hoss. Lots of folks, yo uincluded, talk about the "drag" from using a lot of wing. Yeah, you might lose 1-2 MPH on the long straights. But you might also pick up 5 MPH in all the fast corners, if you know how to drive the wing right.

So to me a lot of wing, and its associated alleged "drag", is well worth it. And data shows this.
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Originally Posted by Detour
Your awesome Rad, love reading your posts....
Paul, you're not coming clean just yet. Your 3.8 is 200 lbs heavier than my Fiat, my Fiat is supposedly more powerful, as fast as you can shift, you cannot shift faster than Fiat F1 SuperFast2 (60 ms), my car is more sleek through the air.

On the video below I'm running on Pirelli DH tires. Our exit speed out of T16 is similar.

Look at my video at the 8:00 minutes mark


Now look at yours at the 11:30 minutes mark


I exit T16 1 mph faster and go flat from there, you exit 1 mph slower and end up 2 mph faster (my 149 mph vs. your 151 mph).

If I add 200 lbs to my fiat, and slower shifting, I would not reach more than 146mph, and my car is making up to 466whp, from a 4.3 V8 with a little more torque.

That's it, I'm filing a protest and request for tear down to the DE Cup board of governors. My Playstation simulator says your car is running over 500whp, but I don't have the v2.0 simulator that includes calculations for re-gearing.

By the way, great driving around Sebring, so relaxed and still bullying Izzone, love the video name too.
Old 05-14-2012, 12:03 AM
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that is a very well-sorted gt3.
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Rads numbers do usually ad up in terms of data analyzing. Fess up Paul.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Despite being on full slicks, there are a number of corners where we could notably raise your Vmin, and pick you up oodles of free time without any increase of drama.


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