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Old 06-02-2012, 03:53 PM
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I wouldn't go that far, but being reasonable, and keeping the car characteristics (street) I would say 120-140.
He's referring to those funny down under dollars
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
the engine work ($40k not $25k a the Dog thinks, there is not free labor, and the entire exhaust must be replaced)
From Rhonda's post:

Labor:
Estimated installation cost will vary per installer, but it should be close to 50 hours of labor.

Parts:
Parts Cost for 4.0 L conversion on a 3.6L GT3 or GT3 RS is $ 14,650



50 hours-$00 per hour $5k

$15k parts
$5k labor
$5k exhaust bits

$25k

Sharkwerks does it for the same price.
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Beater 997.1 gt3 $65k
4.0 build 25k
Gavin's suspension 10k
Tarret bits $3k
Cup wing $4k

Ok, so I went over budget. Still only $107k. But it will have a fresh motor and suspension. Car would be a beast... Maybe not the ultimate, but a beast of a DE car nonetheless.
Still far away from being the ultimate DE car.
Engine OK
Gavin's suspension ??? The day I see a Top level team running those on those cars, or maybe a back to back test, I could be sold until than, whatever is proven to work.
A lot more involved in suspension than shocks.
Aero - 10K
Wheels, tires, interior, transmission, clutch, brakes.
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
From Rhonda's post:

Labor:
Estimated installation cost will vary per installer, but it should be close to 50 hours of labor.

Parts:
Parts Cost for 4.0 L conversion on a 3.6L GT3 or GT3 RS is $ 14,650



50 hours-$00 per hour $5k

$15k parts
$5k labor
$5k exhaust bits

$25k

Sharkwerks does it for the same price.
Sure does, different option, different outcome.
Also add the shipping costs...
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
He's referring to those funny down under dollars
LOL
Old 06-02-2012, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Still far away from being the ultimate DE car.
Engine OK
Gavin's suspension ??? The day I see a Top level team running those on those cars, or maybe a back to back test, I could be sold until than, whatever is proven to work.
A lot more involved in suspension than shocks.
Aero - 10K
Wheels, tires, interior, transmission, clutch, brakes.
I've seen Gavin and Paul run with the exe-tc suspension. Seems good enough for me. Paul has like 8 months of DE experience and that car is dialed in nicely and he's boogying around sebring. You could sub jrz or whatever in for the same money. Tomatoe tamatoe. Aero is 10k if I buy it from you
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Beater 997.1 gt3 $65k
4.0 build 25k
Gavin's suspension 10k
Tarret bits $3k
Cup wing $4k

Ok, so I went over budget. Still only $107k. But it will have a fresh motor and suspension. Car would be a beast... Maybe not the ultimate, but a beast of a DE car nonetheless.
A bone stock 3.8RS would go faster, it would not be a beast. For the money, a real 3.8RS would be a better value (less money lost).

There is no such thing as free labor, and you're still missing basic parts, brakes? wheels? tires? diff? axles? the horrible gearing in the 997.1 GT3 ?

The 4.0 upgrade on a 3.6 car for $25k makes a lot of sense for a 3.6 that has been tracked and is high on miles. $25k is the cost with everything else being perfect, but opening an engine reveals surprises when doing this type of work, and better to fix it while open than seal it and having to open it again a few months later.
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In other words; Sell yellowbird.
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
I've seen Gavin and Paul run with the exe-tc suspension. Seems good enough for me. Paul has like 8 months of DE experience and that car is dialed in nicely and he's boogying around sebring. You could sub jrz or whatever in for the same money. Tomatoe tamatoe. Aero is 10k if I buy it from you
If you want Porsche parts for a Porsche .... yes

If you want civic parts for a Porsche

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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
A bone stock 3.8RS would go faster, it would not be a beast. For the money, a real 3.8RS would be a better value (less money lost).

There is no such thing as free labor, and you're still missing basic parts, brakes? wheels? tires? diff? axles? the horrible gearing in the 997.1 GT3 ?

The 4.0 upgrade on a 3.6 car for $25k makes a lot of sense for a 3.6 that has been tracked and is high on miles. $25k is the cost with everything else being perfect, but opening an engine reveals surprises when doing this type of work, and better to fix it while open than seal it and having to open it again a few months later.
You'd have to do a diff, wheels, tires etc... on a 4.0 too. I'm just talking about the things that would not be getting on a 4.0 to make it at least equal from the factory.
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
From Rhonda's post:

Labor:
Estimated installation cost will vary per installer, but it should be close to 50 hours of labor.

Parts:
Parts Cost for 4.0 L conversion on a 3.6L GT3 or GT3 RS is $ 14,650



50 hours-$00 per hour $5k

$15k parts
$5k labor
$5k exhaust bits

$25k

Sharkwerks does it for the same price.
$100/hr to top notch engine builders? good luck with that. If you find me a top notch Porsche engine builder that works for those rates, let me know, I will start a new business marking him up 50% and selling his work worldwide.

Are engine gaskets, oil, water pump, oil pump, bearings, etc included in the upgrade kit? planning to reuse them? good luck.

$25k is a super good deal especially for gains of 80 whp, and a fresh engine, but the minimum bill should be closer to $35k (taxes, shipping, proper labor rates).
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Orbit = 100/hr
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
If you want Porsche parts for a Porsche .... yes

If you want civic parts for a Porsche

I'm the theory either I do it right or I don't do it.
Weaksauce rebuttal. It's a UK part. Not some Brazilian knock off What fault can you can you find with that product? That's like saying guard isn't a worthwhile option since you can put a motorsports product in.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
In other words; Sell yellowbird.
Never, running this baby into the ground! Not literally I hope

Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Orbit = 100/hr
Uh oh... No he didn't! Rad is talking some mad **** about orbit yo, being some whack *** engine builders for $100 an hour
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
$100/hr to top notch engine builders? good luck with that. If you find me a top notch Porsche engine builder that works for those rates, let me know, I will start a new business marking him up 50% and selling his work worldwide.

Are engine gaskets, oil, water pump, oil pump, bearings, etc included in the upgrade kit? planning to reuse them? good luck.

$25k is a super good deal especially for gains of 80 whp, and a fresh engine, but the minimum bill should be closer to $35k (taxes, shipping, proper labor rates).
I guess Sharky and Obit are a couple of hacks then. We are talking US money here, not chavez pesos


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