GT3 RS 4.0 - a lot more than just 200cc
04-05-2012, 01:24 AM
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GT3 RS 4.0 - a lot more than just 200cc
Well today I had the opportunity to drive Mr. Cuatro Punto Cero's maritime blue, during tests and to the Palm Beach raceway.
The impressions are from someone that drives a 2011 GT3RS, and I could consider my car well sorted, but really close to stock form engine wise.
The 4.0 is a well sorted car and became a lot better after Orbit's upgrades, but I'll let the owner expose his impressions when the time comes.
I just got back home and still amazed how different both cars are.
Chassi wise I would say that are pretty much the same on the streets, but the 4.0 felt really solid and responsive with the new springs.
And of course the feel richer effect, as I was driving THE maritime blue 4.0
All jokes on a side, i can't stop thinking about the way that engine pulls. The first memory and feel that came to me was from my 996GT2, without turbo lag. Yes the car pulls that hard.
No laziness found on low RPMs like in the 3.8
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the 3.8 has a few flat spots and the engine is very lazy to rev at lower RPMs, even the heel and toe is different when driving around 2500 RPMs. You need to keep you foot on throttle in order to raise the rpm and lower the gear. Definetely not linear. That always bothered me, but I can live with as I don't usually drive the car at those RPMs.
The 4.0 is just light and linear and torquye, strong and pulls and pulls and pulls...
Worth every penny, never thought that the engine could be that much better, but yes it is.
I really wanted to know what really changed in the car, because it is not possible that the 200cc changed the characteristics of the engine that much.
Heads must be different, flow, cams, lift, etc....
Long story short, my car is for sale and so is my kidney
I need a 4.0. As my friend Peter would say, I'm loosing the will to live.
In the following weeks I'll post the link for the charity website where you will be able to buy a wrist band to help the cause, just like lance armstrong.
This is the best reason for charity. 1.00 from each one of the members should take me there in a few months.
Come on guys ... Let's make it happen.
The impressions are from someone that drives a 2011 GT3RS, and I could consider my car well sorted, but really close to stock form engine wise.
The 4.0 is a well sorted car and became a lot better after Orbit's upgrades, but I'll let the owner expose his impressions when the time comes.
I just got back home and still amazed how different both cars are.
Chassi wise I would say that are pretty much the same on the streets, but the 4.0 felt really solid and responsive with the new springs.
And of course the feel richer effect, as I was driving THE maritime blue 4.0
All jokes on a side, i can't stop thinking about the way that engine pulls. The first memory and feel that came to me was from my 996GT2, without turbo lag. Yes the car pulls that hard.
No laziness found on low RPMs like in the 3.8
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the 3.8 has a few flat spots and the engine is very lazy to rev at lower RPMs, even the heel and toe is different when driving around 2500 RPMs. You need to keep you foot on throttle in order to raise the rpm and lower the gear. Definetely not linear. That always bothered me, but I can live with as I don't usually drive the car at those RPMs.
The 4.0 is just light and linear and torquye, strong and pulls and pulls and pulls...
Worth every penny, never thought that the engine could be that much better, but yes it is.
I really wanted to know what really changed in the car, because it is not possible that the 200cc changed the characteristics of the engine that much.
Heads must be different, flow, cams, lift, etc....
Long story short, my car is for sale and so is my kidney
I need a 4.0. As my friend Peter would say, I'm loosing the will to live.
In the following weeks I'll post the link for the charity website where you will be able to buy a wrist band to help the cause, just like lance armstrong.
This is the best reason for charity. 1.00 from each one of the members should take me there in a few months.
Come on guys ... Let's make it happen.
04-05-2012, 01:38 AM
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Marius, that's the mentality, with help like that I will be able to afford the 4.0 and the baller 997 cup you have
Nice driving tonight, very easy, smooth and calm. Congrats !
Mike I'll send you an email tomorrow. Very simple things but really effective
Nice driving tonight, very easy, smooth and calm. Congrats !
Mike I'll send you an email tomorrow. Very simple things but really effective
04-05-2012, 01:45 AM
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Back off Mr!
I see your charity and I raise you a 50% discount.
Please PayPal me half a dollar each.
I just need the 4L motor to put in the super light 6. You can keep the heavy body , decals, PASM, PSM, variable steering, 19 CLs and red interior.
I see your charity and I raise you a 50% discount.
Please PayPal me half a dollar each.
I just need the 4L motor to put in the super light 6. You can keep the heavy body , decals, PASM, PSM, variable steering, 19 CLs and red interior.
04-05-2012, 02:16 AM
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Can't comment on the 3.8 as I never drove one but I had some (safe in a relatively empty public street in Dubai) fun chasing a 997.2 TT PDK with my 4.0 and was able to keep up with him on accelerating from a stand still for about 200m before we had to stop at a traffic light (kids do not reproduce the stunt ) Amazing pull from the 4.0 which engine is still not open (first 1000km driven below 5k rpm now going to 6.5k rpm ish)
) Amazing pull from the 4.0 which engine is still not open (first 1000km driven below 5k rpm now going to 6.5k rpm ish)
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04-05-2012, 02:30 AM
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Yup! I thankfully made the switch to the 4.0 from a 3.8RS and have compared the two in many previous posts. The 4.0 is an amazing engine and does feel like so much more than the 200cc's or the lap times suggest. It is nice to hear this from someone who has actually driven the car and can compare. I loved the 3.8 but the 4.0 RS is a masterpiece! It pulls with turbo like torque but in a NA engine. Yes the $$ delta was not pleasant and is hard to rationally justify but for those of us who love these GT3's, the chance to own, enjoy and drive one of these icons makes it well worth it. The 4.0 is an extremely special car.
04-05-2012, 03:45 AM
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Well today I had the opportunity to drive Mr. Cuatro Punto Cero's maritime blue, during tests and to the Palm Beach raceway.
The impressions are from someone that drives a 2011 GT3RS, and I could consider my car well sorted, but really close to stock form engine wise.
The 4.0 is a well sorted car and became a lot better after Orbit's upgrades, but I'll let the owner expose his impressions when the time comes.
I just got back home and still amazed how different both cars are.
Chassi wise I would say that are pretty much the same on the streets, but the 4.0 felt really solid and responsive with the new springs.
And of course the feel richer effect, as I was driving THE maritime blue 4.0
All jokes on a side, i can't stop thinking about the way that engine pulls. The first memory and feel that came to me was from my 996GT2, without turbo lag. Yes the car pulls that hard.
No laziness found on low RPMs like in the 3.8
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the 3.8 has a few flat spots and the engine is very lazy to rev at lower RPMs, even the heel and toe is different when driving around 2500 RPMs. You need to keep you foot on throttle in order to raise the rpm and lower the gear. Definetely not linear. That always bothered me, but I can live with as I don't usually drive the car at those RPMs.
The 4.0 is just light and linear and torquye, strong and pulls and pulls and pulls...
Worth every penny, never thought that the engine could be that much better, but yes it is.
I really wanted to know what really changed in the car, because it is not possible that the 200cc changed the characteristics of the engine that much.
Heads must be different, flow, cams, lift, etc....
Long story short, my car is for sale and so is my kidney
I need a 4.0. As my friend Peter would say, I'm loosing the will to live.
In the following weeks I'll post the link for the charity website where you will be able to buy a wrist band to help the cause, just like lance armstrong.
This is the best reason for charity. 1.00 from each one of the members should take me there in a few months.
Come on guys ... Let's make it happen.
The impressions are from someone that drives a 2011 GT3RS, and I could consider my car well sorted, but really close to stock form engine wise.
The 4.0 is a well sorted car and became a lot better after Orbit's upgrades, but I'll let the owner expose his impressions when the time comes.
I just got back home and still amazed how different both cars are.
Chassi wise I would say that are pretty much the same on the streets, but the 4.0 felt really solid and responsive with the new springs.
And of course the feel richer effect, as I was driving THE maritime blue 4.0
All jokes on a side, i can't stop thinking about the way that engine pulls. The first memory and feel that came to me was from my 996GT2, without turbo lag. Yes the car pulls that hard.
No laziness found on low RPMs like in the 3.8
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the 3.8 has a few flat spots and the engine is very lazy to rev at lower RPMs, even the heel and toe is different when driving around 2500 RPMs. You need to keep you foot on throttle in order to raise the rpm and lower the gear. Definetely not linear. That always bothered me, but I can live with as I don't usually drive the car at those RPMs.
The 4.0 is just light and linear and torquye, strong and pulls and pulls and pulls...
Worth every penny, never thought that the engine could be that much better, but yes it is.
I really wanted to know what really changed in the car, because it is not possible that the 200cc changed the characteristics of the engine that much.
Heads must be different, flow, cams, lift, etc....
Long story short, my car is for sale and so is my kidney
I need a 4.0. As my friend Peter would say, I'm loosing the will to live.
In the following weeks I'll post the link for the charity website where you will be able to buy a wrist band to help the cause, just like lance armstrong.
This is the best reason for charity. 1.00 from each one of the members should take me there in a few months.
Come on guys ... Let's make it happen.
there are still a lot of RS4.0 out there to buy.
you should get one.
then reter and randy are dead meat.
04-05-2012, 07:17 AM
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Yup! I thankfully made the switch to the 4.0 from a 3.8RS and have compared the two in many previous posts. The 4.0 is an amazing engine and does feel like so much more than the 200cc's or the lap times suggest. It is nice to hear this from someone who has actually driven the car and can compare. I loved the 3.8 but the 4.0 RS is a masterpiece! It pulls with turbo like torque but in a NA engine. Yes the $$ delta was not pleasant and is hard to rationally justify but for those of us who love these GT3's, the chance to own, enjoy and drive one of these icons makes it well worth it. The 4.0 is an extremely special car.
Had my first drive on Wednesday and was really impressed with the same distinctions I felt vs my '11RS....I believe it's going to only get better as I put on the Km's and get more seat time with it.
04-05-2012, 09:23 AM
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Just put a Manthey lump in your 3.8. It'll pull harder and be faster than a 4.0, and be less than 1/2 the delta in terms of cost. Plus you'll get to fly over and test it on the Ring as well as humble the 4.0's at Sebring.
http://www.manthey-racing.de/nextsho...329&newsid=321
3.8 RS: 450hp; 317tq
4.0 RS: 500hp; 339tq
Manthey K510: 510-525hp; 365tq
http://www.manthey-racing.de/nextsho...329&newsid=321
3.8 RS: 450hp; 317tq
4.0 RS: 500hp; 339tq
Manthey K510: 510-525hp; 365tq
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04-05-2012, 11:22 AM
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04-05-2012, 11:25 AM
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+1 that K510 sounds amazing ... if anyone wants a copy of the article about it PM me I will e-mail you a PDF.
04-05-2012, 11:26 AM
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Well today I had the opportunity to drive Mr. Cuatro Punto Cero's maritime blue, during tests and to the Palm Beach raceway.
The impressions are from someone that drives a 2011 GT3RS, and I could consider my car well sorted, but really close to stock form engine wise.
The 4.0 is a well sorted car and became a lot better after Orbit's upgrades, but I'll let the owner expose his impressions when the time comes.
I just got back home and still amazed how different both cars are.
Chassi wise I would say that are pretty much the same on the streets, but the 4.0 felt really solid and responsive with the new springs.
And of course the feel richer effect, as I was driving THE maritime blue 4.0
All jokes on a side, i can't stop thinking about the way that engine pulls. The first memory and feel that came to me was from my 996GT2, without turbo lag. Yes the car pulls that hard.
No laziness found on low RPMs like in the 3.8
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the 3.8 has a few flat spots and the engine is very lazy to rev at lower RPMs, even the heel and toe is different when driving around 2500 RPMs. You need to keep you foot on throttle in order to raise the rpm and lower the gear. Definetely not linear. That always bothered me, but I can live with as I don't usually drive the car at those RPMs.
The 4.0 is just light and linear and torquye, strong and pulls and pulls and pulls...
Worth every penny, never thought that the engine could be that much better, but yes it is.
I really wanted to know what really changed in the car, because it is not possible that the 200cc changed the characteristics of the engine that much.
Heads must be different, flow, cams, lift, etc....
Long story short, my car is for sale and so is my kidney
I need a 4.0. As my friend Peter would say, I'm loosing the will to live.
In the following weeks I'll post the link for the charity website where you will be able to buy a wrist band to help the cause, just like lance armstrong.
This is the best reason for charity. 1.00 from each one of the members should take me there in a few months.
Come on guys ... Let's make it happen.
The impressions are from someone that drives a 2011 GT3RS, and I could consider my car well sorted, but really close to stock form engine wise.
The 4.0 is a well sorted car and became a lot better after Orbit's upgrades, but I'll let the owner expose his impressions when the time comes.
I just got back home and still amazed how different both cars are.
Chassi wise I would say that are pretty much the same on the streets, but the 4.0 felt really solid and responsive with the new springs.
And of course the feel richer effect, as I was driving THE maritime blue 4.0
All jokes on a side, i can't stop thinking about the way that engine pulls. The first memory and feel that came to me was from my 996GT2, without turbo lag. Yes the car pulls that hard.
No laziness found on low RPMs like in the 3.8
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the 3.8 has a few flat spots and the engine is very lazy to rev at lower RPMs, even the heel and toe is different when driving around 2500 RPMs. You need to keep you foot on throttle in order to raise the rpm and lower the gear. Definetely not linear. That always bothered me, but I can live with as I don't usually drive the car at those RPMs.
The 4.0 is just light and linear and torquye, strong and pulls and pulls and pulls...
Worth every penny, never thought that the engine could be that much better, but yes it is.
I really wanted to know what really changed in the car, because it is not possible that the 200cc changed the characteristics of the engine that much.
Heads must be different, flow, cams, lift, etc....
Long story short, my car is for sale and so is my kidney
I need a 4.0. As my friend Peter would say, I'm loosing the will to live.
In the following weeks I'll post the link for the charity website where you will be able to buy a wrist band to help the cause, just like lance armstrong.
This is the best reason for charity. 1.00 from each one of the members should take me there in a few months.
Come on guys ... Let's make it happen.
04-05-2012, 11:28 AM
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Just put a Manthey lump in your 3.8. It'll pull harder and be faster than a 4.0, and be less than 1/2 the delta in terms of cost. Plus you'll get to fly over and test it on the Ring as well as humble the 4.0's at Sebring.
http://www.manthey-racing.de/nextsho...329&newsid=321
3.8 RS: 450hp; 317tq
4.0 RS: 500hp; 339tq
Manthey K510: 510-525hp; 365tq
http://www.manthey-racing.de/nextsho...329&newsid=321
3.8 RS: 450hp; 317tq
4.0 RS: 500hp; 339tq
Manthey K510: 510-525hp; 365tq
Where do I buy a 4.0 motor and will it just bolt in?
Dispite 911SLOW's best effords the Euro is still not on parity with the USD, but the Spaniards are doing a good job of helping us out. There is hope..