LVDell

So my 4 year absolutely loves riding in the Porsches. Up until now, I have always had a back seat for him. However, with the impending acquisition of a .1GT3 he would have to ride in the front. He is 4 years old and about 40# if I remember correctly.

So......how do those of y'all with young children gives them rides? I'm assuming a booster seat like I do in the back? Anything else? I've read conflicting info on deactivating airbags and weight in the seat of the child, etc..

Thanks for any replies in advance

997gt3north

order the module that you de-activate the airbag with a manual switch on the outside of the glove box

997gt3north

or, if you aren't doing the 1/2 cage thing, do the rear seat belt install that a few have done (no lawyer comments please - just offering alternatives)

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...lled-pics.html

LVDell

Just saw something on the Suncoast Parts website LINK but it says professional installation. If I need that I would just have to go ahead and order through my local dealer.

What about the weight sensor that should already be in the car?

LVDell

Thanks for the link on the alternative. I'll probably get a 1/2 cage at some point but that is an option to explore as well.

997gt3north

I have to re-read my manual - I thought the auto weight sensing was for a multi force explosion (less and more force) - I didn't and don't think it de-activates the bags - thus the switch.


And I've removed those seats for the 996 clubsports - so I had these de-activated - the module turns off the airbag.

LVDell

Interesting. Not pressing but if you have a sec to let me know what it says or even scan the page I'd appreciate it. I'm pocking up the car this weekend and trying to prepare myself for when I get home and my boy wants a ride the second I pull in the drive!

TTurbine

I've been reading your previous thread

Congratulations on your new beast

btw is there any chance that this is your new MOD thread?

LVDell

carrering

my 6 year old with his booster seat does not cause the automatic airbag shutoff to turn off. he has been in porsche GT3 since he was 2 years old and no problems. he probably has more laps on the ring than any other 6-yr old too :-)

i push the seat all the way rearward when he rides. i run the half cage in back. he is snug as a bug in a rug.

NorthVan

I have added the airbag on off thing for the passenger seat. I am thinking about adding it to my GT3, as I have young kids as well (8 and 5). The laws in Canada state that any child 12 and under need to have a shut off if sitting in the front seat. Not sure what they are in your area, but is a preventable injury worth the cost of a OEM shut off kit and the cost of installing it?

LVDell

Agree. Just not familiar with what is or isn't the way the system works.

911SLOW

Dell you have to install a switch..



OWM Child Restraint System
General information
Child restraint systems must not be used on the bucket seat.
DANGER

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Risk of serious or mortal injury from passenger airbag if not switched off when using a child restraint system.
If children weighing up to 27 kg are going to be transported in a child restraint system on the passenger's seat, the passenger airbag must be switched off. If the weight is more than 27 kg, the passenger airbag should be switched on.

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Seek appropriate advice from your Porsche partner about the possible installation of a Porsche child restraint system.

Information

The key switch for switching off the passenger airbag and the Isofix attachment bracket are not installed at the factory. They can be retrofitted.
Consult a qualified specialist garage. We recommend that you use a Porsche partner for this work since these are staffed with trained personnel and have the necessary parts and tools.

DANGER

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Always observe the separate installation instructions for your child seat.
When using a child restraint system, it is vital that you observe the legal regulations applicable in your country.
Use only child restraint systems recommended by Porsche. These systems have been tested and adjusted to the interior of your Porsche and the appropriate child age groups. Other systems have not been tested and could entail an increased risk of injury.

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Please observe the chapter "Switching passenger airbag on and off".

Children up to 9 months old
Children of this age must be held in a restraint system which is installed on the passenger's seat facing backwards.
The passenger airbag must be switched off.

Children aged between 9 months and 6 years
Children of this age are held in child restraint systems facing forwards.
The passenger airbag must be switched off.

Children aged between 6 and 12 years
Children of this age are held in child restraint systems facing forwards.
The passenger airbag must be switched off. The passenger airbag must be switched on for children weighing over 27 kg.

Recommended child restraint systems
Chart
Age group
Weight group
Seat type
Authorisation number

up to approx. 9 months
up to 13 kg
Porsche Baby Seat 0+ Isofix Universal Porsche Baby Seat 0+ Isofix Special Porsche part No.: 955.044.800.42
E13 030011

E13 030012

between 9 months and 3 years
from 9 to 18 kg
JUNIOR SEAT ISOFIX Group I Universal Junior Seat Isofix Group I Special Porsche part No.: 955.044.800.44
E13 030013

E13 030014

between 3 and 6 years
from 16 to 25 kg
JUNIOR SEAT ISOFIX Group II Universal Porsche Part No.: 955.044.800.44
E13 030015

between 6 and 12 years
from 15 to 36 kg
Porsche KID Plus Porsche part No.: 955.044.801.02
E1 03301169


Information

If children weighing up to 27 kg are going to be transported in a child restraint system on the passenger's seat, the passenger airbag must be switched off. If the weight is more than 27 kg, the passenger airbag should be switched on.

Switching passenger airbag on and off


Switch off the passenger airbag on the key switch using the vehicle key.

A - Switch position ON – airbag is active
B - Switch position OFF – airbag is not active
DANGER

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Risk of serious or mortal injury for passenger if passenger airbag remains switched off after the child seat is removed.
The passenger airbag must be switched on again once the child seat has been removed.

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Warning light "PASSENGER AIRBAG OFF"



If the airbag on the passenger's side is switched off, the warning light "PASSENGER AIRBAG OFF" is continuously lit when the ignition is switched on.
DANGER

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Risk of serious or mortal injury from the passenger airbag. If the "PASSENGER AIRBAG OFF" warning light is not lit when the ignition is switched on and the Airbag OFF switch is switched off, this could indicate a fault in the system.
Do not install a child restraint system on the passenger's seat.
Have the fault remedied immediately. Consult a qualified specialist garage. We recommend that you use a Porsche partner for this work since these are staffed with trained personnel and have the necessary parts and tools.

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Information

The key switch and the warning light "PASSENGER AIRBAG OFF" are not installed at the factory. They can be retrofitted by your dealership (not on vehicles with bucket seat).

ISOFIX system
Child seat bracket on the passenger's seat
Child restraint systems must not be used on the bucket seat.
Use only child restraint systems with the ISOFIX system recommended by Porsche. These systems have been tested and adjusted to the interior of your Porsche and the appropriate child age groups. Other systems have not been tested and could entail an increased risk of injury.
You can obtain ISOFIX-compatible child seats from your Porsche partner.
Always observe the separate installation instructions for your child seat.

Information

The ISOFIX attachment bracket is not installed at the factory. It can be retrofitted at your dealership.
DANGER

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Risk of serious or mortal injury from passenger airbag if not switched off when using a child restraint system.
For children up to a weight of 27 kg, the passenger airbag must be switched off if a child restraint system is used on the passenger's seat. The passenger airbag must be switched on for children weighing over 27 kg.

Please observe the chapter "Child Restraint System".


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Installing an ISOFIX child seat system


1. Switch off passenger airbag with key switch. The warning light "PASSENGER AIRBAG OFF" must be lit up.

Please observe the chapter "Switching passenger airbag on and off".

2. Secure the child seat to retaining lugs A as outlined in the instruction manual for the child seat.
3. Pull the child seat to check that both fastening points are engaged correctly.

Information

The airbag must be switched back on after removing the child seat.




To install it, first you have to:

1.buy the car

2.Remove main light switch

3.Remove cover for instrument panel

4.Remove top steering-column trim.

5.Remove left centre console cover.

6.Remove the trim under dashboard

7.Disconnect the electrical plug connections

8.Install switch for airbag

Put everything back..






PM details of the car now, or I am going to delete all your threads..

LVDell

Damn, I guess I'll get it scheduled.

Rceron

This is all very interesting and useful. Considering selling the Denali Yukon and getting a 2009 M3 - 4 door. As you know I have 3 boys. So, I guess I could put my oldest in front with the air bag shut off. Driving the car with all 3 boys would be a rarity. Only once in a while do I have to pick up or drop off kids at daycare. So, tired of driving that big damn truck. So this gives me hope....