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Old 10-06-2011, 11:59 PM
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Default Motor Trend's "Best Driver's Car 2011"

If you haven't see the article, care to guess what came out on top? I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but for whatever a very subjective MT inquiry is worth, the GT3 RS beat out some pretty heavy metal.


http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...r/viewall.html
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so all in all the car to own now is still 2012 z06 - if you throw out stock seats? 1:34.4 lap vs 1:36.8 in gt3 rs. quite a difference considering same pro driver was testing them.
i really wonder how good those LS7 motors are now. it`s so tempting to pick up a used Z06, strip it, put in proper seats and run hell out of it... i cannot think what other car in $50K total budget for donor and all mods can produce anything close to what z06/z07 now does.
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Probably the main issue in considering a Corvette - or any non-Porsche - for really serious track work is availability of after-sales support. Many of us go with Porsches because of the ease of maintenance, availability of parts, strong user/knowledge base, and durability.

It's one thing if you take your street car to the track twice or thrice a year; it's another thing if you're going twice a month. If the former, a Corvette is probably fine. If the latter, it's best to stick with a Porsche. And if you're going more than twice a month, it's probably time to remove the license plate...
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Mustang Cayman and RS are the only ones that won't be done for and cooked after 10 laps at Sebring unless you modify and upgrade.
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
so all in all the car to own now is still 2012 z06 - if you throw out stock seats? 1:34.4 lap vs 1:36.8 in gt3 rs. quite a difference considering same pro driver was testing them.
i really wonder how good those LS7 motors are now. it`s so tempting to pick up a used Z06, strip it, put in proper seats and run hell out of it... i cannot think what other car in $50K total budget for donor and all mods can produce anything close to what z06/z07 now does.
The corvette is a very well built car, and the drivetrain (especially the engines) are just about bullet-proof.

As was mentioned (and I can not fathom why GM never addressed it) are the seats. I remember testing a Z06 2yrs ago and the darn driver seat-back moved forward........and it was game over from there.
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Interesting quote in the article about the GT3RS: "I don't think this will be the fastest car after one lap, but it will be in the lead after 20."
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Interesting quote in the article about the GT3RS: "I don't think this will be the fastest car after one lap, but it will be in the lead after 20."
Very important fact.

regarding Z06, a bunch went boom at Sebring, but they may have been the earlier ones before they fixed them.
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Originally Posted by nkhalidi
Probably the main issue in considering a Corvette - or any non-Porsche - for really serious track work is availability of after-sales support. Many of us go with Porsches because of the ease of maintenance, availability of parts, strong user/knowledge base, and durability.

It's one thing if you take your street car to the track twice or thrice a year; it's another thing if you're going twice a month. If the former, a Corvette is probably fine. If the latter, it's best to stick with a Porsche. And if you're going more than twice a month, it's probably time to remove the license plate...
C5 z06 had motor issues, LS7 since 2006 was quite better imho but i do not know.

realistically speaking, look - 2007 C6 z07 costs now $15-$17K or so for a donor car.
So for $25K top you get a complete track build. Or may be even for $20K if you do most of work yourself minus cage.

Newer faster 2009 C6 Z06 costs about of $50K now. New LS7 motor costs in average about of $15K and it is not exactly cheapest one out there for racing applications. So, if it goes, like, every 4 years it would still make it reasonable. If it goes like every season then it makes no sense financially no matter how many ponies it generates. I see newer Z06 cars quite often and in good hands they are a blast. But what really makes me think about it is a $25K budget considering MY2007 donor car. I am just afraid that in reality there will be some typical Chevy crap behind all that glamour, plus, I afraid that market $20K price mark for 2007 Z06 cars has some ugly reasons behind it.
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Loved the write-up they did on the RS.......... which is exactly why I love this car like no other.
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Originally Posted by kaamacat
The corvette is a very well built car, and the drivetrain (especially the engines) are just about bullet-proof.

As was mentioned (and I can not fathom why GM never addressed it) are the seats. I remember testing a Z06 2yrs ago and the darn driver seat-back moved forward........and it was game over from there.
it was most ridicoluous thing in the article to complaint about considering track performance - who cares of stock seats? drop in recaro spg xl bolted to the floor and it is fixed. but for how long 2006+ LS7 block will live on a track?

does anybody know if chevy kept ls7 same since 2006 or did it have any important internal revisions?
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They changed something with the dry sump I think.
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2009+ have the updated dry sump. No more kabooms after that. Easy retrofit on older cars. The seats are truly terrible. Feel like they came from a Cadillac Cimaron It has amazing capabilities but has very little feedback.

GT-R shocked me as far as how high it placed. Yes, it's capabilities are amazing but it's a frigging PS3 with even less feedback than the Z06. I'd rather go slower and get a 1000 more subtle inputs and feel like I'm a participant not an occupant.
Old 10-07-2011, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake951
Interesting quote in the article about the GT3RS: "I don't think this will be the fastest car after one lap, but it will be in the lead after 20."
say's it all, really...
Old 10-07-2011, 11:39 AM
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On the street it comes down to what feel do you like and how much money do you have. The Ferrari is close to 300k. A GT3RS is really expensive at 150K and a Z06 is close to 100K. Most people cant afford any of them.
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i buy the magazines coz i couldn't afford the cars. spent probably $50k in magazines though....haha


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