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09-14-2011, 04:26 PM
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991 S laps Ring as fast as a GT3. But will it feel the same?
But definetely lack soul !
Sure the 991 GT3 will be as fast or faster than a 997.2 GT3 RS, but I can guarantee it will be less involving
From now on it will be a matter if you want to be the fastest guy with a new car or if you want to be the happiest, most involved guy with your Mezger car. I want to belong to the second group !
09-14-2011, 04:38 PM
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It is a really good achievement, if the 991 GT3 comes with PDK it will probably knock another 15 sec out of this time as well. PDK alone is worth 10-15 sec on the ring, that easily makes up for the 15 hp deficit of the 991 S w.r.t the 997 GT3....
09-14-2011, 04:42 PM
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Before I purchased my GT3, was seriously considering the GT-R. Loved it on the street. Then drove it on the track. I am confident I could run faster lap times in the GT-R but it was completely boring, uninvolving and did not require much of its driver. I truly hope the 991 isn't heading down that road.
09-14-2011, 04:43 PM
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Mea culpa.. and since I am here:
sport chrono with two gauges in the dashboard one clock and an analog compass to compliment the navi screen.
Heated ventilated full leather non bucket seats
3 and 3 tail pipes
Sunroof tinted
21" inch wheels with runflats
matching luggage with deviated stitching
sport chrono with two gauges in the dashboard one clock and an analog compass to compliment the navi screen.
Heated ventilated full leather non bucket seats
3 and 3 tail pipes
Sunroof tinted
21" inch wheels with runflats
matching luggage with deviated stitching
- LCD screens in seatbacks to keep kids entertained
- front and rear parking sensors with self-park capability
- 22'' wheel option (dub+twoz are the only way to roll)
- independent rear climate controls
09-14-2011, 05:32 PM
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The 20'' standard wheel on the 991 Carrera S did however strike me as especially caving to market trends. There is simply no reason for them other than (perceived*) style/appearance. In fact it can easily be argued that they only function to inhibit suspension and braking performance.
*I think it looks terrible to have such a huge gap between the caliper and the rim
09-14-2011, 06:28 PM
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09-14-2011, 08:16 PM
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09-14-2011, 08:17 PM
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09-14-2011, 08:18 PM
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wife ... I dont need no stinkin wife! 
If I had a wife I probably wouldnt have a GT3 or go to the ring ... because she'd have my ***** in a small jar somwhere!
I am sorta thinking about doing ED on an AMG E63 wagon (for the dogs) next May ... wonder what ring times I can get in it with the perf pkg?
If I had a wife I probably wouldnt have a GT3 or go to the ring ... because she'd have my ***** in a small jar somwhere!I am sorta thinking about doing ED on an AMG E63 wagon (for the dogs) next May ... wonder what ring times I can get in it with the perf pkg?
09-14-2011, 08:27 PM
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I care about Nurburgring times, because they translate to racetrack performance, and street driving performance as well.
The new 991 S is lighter than a 997 GT3, it has better weight distribution, and it costs $98k brand new. This is going to be a successful 911.
They don't mention which tires they used, I doubt they have a achieved 7:40 on Bridgestone RE-050.
The new 991 S is lighter than a 997 GT3, it has better weight distribution, and it costs $98k brand new. This is going to be a successful 911.
They don't mention which tires they used, I doubt they have a achieved 7:40 on Bridgestone RE-050.
09-14-2011, 08:34 PM
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I care about Nurburgring times, because they translate to racetrack performance, and street driving performance as well.
The new 991 S is lighter than a 997 GT3, it has better weight distribution, and it costs $98k brand new. This is going to be a successful 911.
They don't mention which tires they used, I doubt they have a achieved 7:40 on Bridgestone RE-050.
The new 991 S is lighter than a 997 GT3, it has better weight distribution, and it costs $98k brand new. This is going to be a successful 911.
They don't mention which tires they used, I doubt they have a achieved 7:40 on Bridgestone RE-050.
09-14-2011, 08:43 PM
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I bought a set of MPSS 3 months ago, and they don't stick as good as the MPSC or RE-11. In the South Florida rain they are amazing, insane grip in the rain, but dry grip is not the best, much better grip than PS2 in dry conditions, but not close to MPSC grip or RE-11 grip. No wonder why no one in the SCCA street tire classes is running the MPSS.
So, on the speculation that the 991S was on MPSS, the same car on MPSC would drop another 3 secs at the Ring. That's some serious performance for a car that is going to be the 2nd to base model on a long line-up of Porsche 911.
Reduce weight, add 75 Hp, add race aero, and the 991 GT3 could be running faster than the 997 GT3 RS 4.0.
Impressive.
09-14-2011, 08:52 PM
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If that's the case, then
I bought a set of MPSS 3 months ago, and they don't stick as good as the MPSC or RE-11. In the South Florida rain they are amazing, insane grip in the rain, but dry grip is not the best, much better grip than PS2 in dry conditions, but not close to MPSC grip or RE-11 grip. No wonder why no one in the SCCA street tire classes is running the MPSS.
So, on the speculation that the 991S was on MPSS, the same car on MPSC would drop another 3 secs at the Ring. That's some serious performance for a car that is going to be the 2nd to base model on a long line-up of Porsche 911.
Reduce weight, add 75 Hp, add race aero, and the 991 GT3 could be running faster than the 997 GT3 RS 4.0.
Impressive.
I bought a set of MPSS 3 months ago, and they don't stick as good as the MPSC or RE-11. In the South Florida rain they are amazing, insane grip in the rain, but dry grip is not the best, much better grip than PS2 in dry conditions, but not close to MPSC grip or RE-11 grip. No wonder why no one in the SCCA street tire classes is running the MPSS.
So, on the speculation that the 991S was on MPSS, the same car on MPSC would drop another 3 secs at the Ring. That's some serious performance for a car that is going to be the 2nd to base model on a long line-up of Porsche 911.
Reduce weight, add 75 Hp, add race aero, and the 991 GT3 could be running faster than the 997 GT3 RS 4.0.
Impressive.
we will have to wait a while to see an MPSC+ successor using the newer technologies etc found in the MPSS, (if ever)