PFC08 Brake Info
#91
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I want to order pads, then install
Pagid offers direct fit, but I am vested in pfc until they quit making the 08
#92
Rennlist Member
We've run DTC70's for years on the Mustang. Less stopping power then other aggressive stuff we tried, but it stops the car enough and is easy on rotors and the pads lasted relatively long, someone could try them. They are cheap enough but I doubt they will be less then the PFC08 in terms of $$ per track day.
#95
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Their are a few differences between the PFC slotted and dimpled rotors.
The dimpled P/N 379.34.0060.85/86 are considered "street" rotors by PFC. These rotors are 34MM thick and the swept area is 66MM. Should be used only with PFC pad # 0991. This pad is designed
to cover a swept area of 66MM. PFC does not reccommend using the 7819 pad (covers swept area of only 60MM) with the dimpled rotors.
The slotted rotors P/N 378.32.0060.45/46 are the real race deal. The slotted have a swept area of 60MM and are designed to used with the PFC 7819 pad.
Pros and Cons of each......the slotted weigh less but cost more and will not last as long as the dimpled.
We have a supply of PFC 7819 pads in stock in both 01 and 08 compound. Rotors either dimpled or slotted are available.
Shoot me a PM for pricing.
The dimpled P/N 379.34.0060.85/86 are considered "street" rotors by PFC. These rotors are 34MM thick and the swept area is 66MM. Should be used only with PFC pad # 0991. This pad is designed
to cover a swept area of 66MM. PFC does not reccommend using the 7819 pad (covers swept area of only 60MM) with the dimpled rotors.
The slotted rotors P/N 378.32.0060.45/46 are the real race deal. The slotted have a swept area of 60MM and are designed to used with the PFC 7819 pad.
Pros and Cons of each......the slotted weigh less but cost more and will not last as long as the dimpled.
We have a supply of PFC 7819 pads in stock in both 01 and 08 compound. Rotors either dimpled or slotted are available.
Shoot me a PM for pricing.
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#97
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Mvez:
The APs for the 997.1 GT3 take the Pagid 2707 so the PF0991 would work since it's the same shape.
Some information on the PF rotors for the 997.2 GT3 and GT3RS:
The race rings are narrower as there are no provisions for the anti-rattle bevel springs/rings, as on the street type rings. The race rings are lighter and are full floating. The street rings are broader to support the bevel springs and therefore quieter for the street. Both are suitable for track day use. Also, the current hats offered by Performance Friction have round holes for the Porsche drive pins. The old style hats with the oval holes are no longer produced. All the hats we have are the current version produced by Performance Friction.
Slotted discs offer more bite and clean out a little better than the dimpled discs. The slotted discs are noisier and not recommended for the street. In the case of the race discs, they are lighter as they are 32.0mm thick (20.3 lbs) vs. 34.0mm thick (23.3 lbs) for the front dimpled discs. We weighed both on our UPS scale, while still in the boxes. The 34.0mm should have more thermal capacity so therefore should last longer.
The slotted race rings and hats are sold separately, not together as a kit like the dimpled. The slotted rotors are 378x32mm, the dimpled are 379x34mm. Performance Friction says to use the PF7819 pad with the 378x32mm slotted rotors. You can use either the PF0991 or PF7819 with the dimpled rotors.
We have stock in house of both the 378mm slotted (along with the hats) and the 379mm dimpled, along with plenty of the PF0991 in 08 compound, and PF7819 in 08, 06, and 01.
Hope this helps.
The APs for the 997.1 GT3 take the Pagid 2707 so the PF0991 would work since it's the same shape.
Some information on the PF rotors for the 997.2 GT3 and GT3RS:
The race rings are narrower as there are no provisions for the anti-rattle bevel springs/rings, as on the street type rings. The race rings are lighter and are full floating. The street rings are broader to support the bevel springs and therefore quieter for the street. Both are suitable for track day use. Also, the current hats offered by Performance Friction have round holes for the Porsche drive pins. The old style hats with the oval holes are no longer produced. All the hats we have are the current version produced by Performance Friction.
Slotted discs offer more bite and clean out a little better than the dimpled discs. The slotted discs are noisier and not recommended for the street. In the case of the race discs, they are lighter as they are 32.0mm thick (20.3 lbs) vs. 34.0mm thick (23.3 lbs) for the front dimpled discs. We weighed both on our UPS scale, while still in the boxes. The 34.0mm should have more thermal capacity so therefore should last longer.
The slotted race rings and hats are sold separately, not together as a kit like the dimpled. The slotted rotors are 378x32mm, the dimpled are 379x34mm. Performance Friction says to use the PF7819 pad with the 378x32mm slotted rotors. You can use either the PF0991 or PF7819 with the dimpled rotors.
We have stock in house of both the 378mm slotted (along with the hats) and the 379mm dimpled, along with plenty of the PF0991 in 08 compound, and PF7819 in 08, 06, and 01.
Hope this helps.
#98
Race Director
Anyone try out Cobalt pads? http://www.cobaltfriction.com/news/ 85 Gold has and I've seem them on Grand Am teams too. I've never heard them mentioned on these forums before.
#99
Drifting
I have a 2010 GT3 and I have PCCB and am in process of converting to steel. I am now installing new PFC slotted rotors on front #378 32 0060 45 with PFC 08 pads 7819 08 17 44.
I bought 3 sets of PFC 08 pads 1299 08 44 for the rear and was planning on using stock steel rotors. But I went to Suncoast website to order the steel rear rotors and it said "Fits vehicles with the standard brake system, not compatible with the Ceramic Brake System." Hmmm. Is this correct? Or do I need a different rotor to match up with the yellow PCCB calipers?
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997gt32brakes
I bought 3 sets of PFC 08 pads 1299 08 44 for the rear and was planning on using stock steel rotors. But I went to Suncoast website to order the steel rear rotors and it said "Fits vehicles with the standard brake system, not compatible with the Ceramic Brake System." Hmmm. Is this correct? Or do I need a different rotor to match up with the yellow PCCB calipers?
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997gt32brakes
#100
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I have a 2010 GT3 and I have PCCB and am in process of converting to steel. I am now installing new PFC slotted rotors on front #378 32 0060 45 with PFC 08 pads 7819 08 17 44.
I bought 3 sets of PFC 08 pads 1299 08 44 for the rear and was planning on using stock steel rotors. But I went to Suncoast website to order the steel rear rotors and it said "Fits vehicles with the standard brake system, not compatible with the Ceramic Brake System." Hmmm. Is this correct? Or do I need a different rotor to match up with the yellow PCCB calipers?
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997gt32brakes
I bought 3 sets of PFC 08 pads 1299 08 44 for the rear and was planning on using stock steel rotors. But I went to Suncoast website to order the steel rear rotors and it said "Fits vehicles with the standard brake system, not compatible with the Ceramic Brake System." Hmmm. Is this correct? Or do I need a different rotor to match up with the yellow PCCB calipers?
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997gt32brakes
Alo I am pretty sure the rear rotors from a centerlock turbo work and are much cheaper than the GT3 rotor
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997tt2_brakes
#101
Drifting
I have seen steel OEM on one of Orbits customer cars
Alo I am pretty sure the rear rotors from a centerlock turbo work and are much cheaper than the GT3 rotor
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997tt2_brakes
Alo I am pretty sure the rear rotors from a centerlock turbo work and are much cheaper than the GT3 rotor
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997tt2_brakes
What is break in required for new rotors and pads?
#103
Race Director
Your 1st few warm up laps will break them in but pfc pads don't require bed in.
#104
Rennlist Member
Yep. Give them a session for the pads to lay down a transfer layer onto the discs then brake as you normally do. That's what I found when I put 06 compound on the SPB at the the Summit Point club race last fall.
#105
Race Director
Wish PFC made 08's in these Porsche fitments! These fit 2002-05 996 Turbo and 2005-2012 Carrera S (997S) and some older Cup cars and fronts of some Boxsters.
7818.xx.17.44
0776.xx.17.44
I need to buy new pads this week or at least by next week. I've been using Pagid RS29 Yellow for fronts and RS14 Blacks for the rear to help balance out brake bias. They work great like this. I tried out PFC01 pads and in 5 laps they grooved rotors and transfered so much heat to the caliper it strated to turn purplish brown. Same thing years ago when I tried out PFC97 pads...too much heat transfer from pad to caliper!
If PFC does 08's for my size fitment are they going to address their backing plates to stop so much heat transfer?
7818.xx.17.44
0776.xx.17.44
I need to buy new pads this week or at least by next week. I've been using Pagid RS29 Yellow for fronts and RS14 Blacks for the rear to help balance out brake bias. They work great like this. I tried out PFC01 pads and in 5 laps they grooved rotors and transfered so much heat to the caliper it strated to turn purplish brown. Same thing years ago when I tried out PFC97 pads...too much heat transfer from pad to caliper!
If PFC does 08's for my size fitment are they going to address their backing plates to stop so much heat transfer?