Possible GT3 down(Ryan Dunn) RIP
06-23-2011, 02:32 PM
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My guess is that most GT3 owners have a penchant for speed, and have probably broken the speed limit on a public road once or twice in their driving histories, thereby legally making themselves liable for any injury caused to passengers, other motorists, cyclists, or pedestrians. We have all acted like "jackasses" at some point, and probably had fun in so doing.
06-23-2011, 03:22 PM
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Roger Ebert already tried that one, didn't work out so well for him. Can we get off our high horses and realize that this is a tragic, albeit preventable, event that has resulted in the death of two human beings?
My guess is that most GT3 owners have a penchant for speed, and have probably broken the speed limit on a public road once or twice in their driving histories, thereby legally making themselves liable for any injury caused to passengers, other motorists, cyclists, or pedestrians. We have all acted like "jackasses" at some point, and probably had fun in so doing.
My guess is that most GT3 owners have a penchant for speed, and have probably broken the speed limit on a public road once or twice in their driving histories, thereby legally making themselves liable for any injury caused to passengers, other motorists, cyclists, or pedestrians. We have all acted like "jackasses" at some point, and probably had fun in so doing.
Just because I go faster than local bureaucrats want me to go doesn't mean I am endangering all around.
Not claiming to be a saint but if I ever end up doing something like Ryan Dunn just did I will deserve all the scorn and condemnation coming to me.
BTW. I wonder if there was a second car involved? There seem to be no witnesses of the actual accident. Could have been a "race" where someone challenged Ryan or he challenged someone and adrenaline combined with alcohol led to complete failure in judgement. Would suck to be that guy and living the rest of one's life with this. That's just speculation, of course. And even if there was a second car there are absolutely no excuses for Mr. Dunn.
06-23-2011, 04:11 PM
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06-23-2011, 04:16 PM
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For those interested, TMZ now has photos of the car's remains on their website.
06-23-2011, 06:28 PM
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There are also skid marks in the left lane.
Possible race? Swerve and bump? Errant deer in the road? Maybe they're from a tractor-trailer (evenly spaced) he came up on too fast and he swerved to miss? Maybe those marks were there last month.
I don't think we'll ever know more than we already do.
Still a bad decision, and still sad.
Darell
Possible race? Swerve and bump? Errant deer in the road? Maybe they're from a tractor-trailer (evenly spaced) he came up on too fast and he swerved to miss? Maybe those marks were there last month.
I don't think we'll ever know more than we already do.
Still a bad decision, and still sad.
Darell
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06-23-2011, 07:05 PM
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While I am respectful of his family and friends at this difficult time it would be wrong to ignore the elements that contributed to his downfall. And wrong to miss the opportunity to reflect on our own driving and risk taking and the possible consequences. I showed the pictures to my 21 year old son and 17 year old daughter and we had a long talk about drinking and driving and street racing, etc. If I increased their odds than maybe some good came from this tragedy.
06-24-2011, 08:28 PM
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CARS KILL
Ban em' all. Only electric golf Karts under 50 mph should be allowed. Remember Cars Kill! Guns Kill, Cars kills, forks make people, fat, Alcohol Kills, etc, etc. You get in a car when driver was drinking.... take a chance. Some will get home, some wont! Very Sad... RIP... I still don't think he DESERVED anything. I was also told when I was paralyzed, that I deserved it... for riding a motorcycle at less than 25 MPH. Point is stuff does happen. Drinking sure didnt help, I guess. Sorry Ryan. Great Car.
06-28-2011, 08:48 AM
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Interesting that his buddy has been practicing a different life for a few years now, Steve-O a role model?!
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06...ss/?hpt=hp_bn5
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06...ss/?hpt=hp_bn5
06-28-2011, 10:42 AM
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On the 997 forum, someone reported that the second set of skidmarks were from the police cruiser brake-test to help assess the speed of the Dunn's GT3...
06-28-2011, 12:54 PM
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What happened to ABS???
06-28-2011, 01:05 PM
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ABS isn't going to save you at 140mph when you make a abrupt turn, and rotate the car. Dunn's skid mark lines, from left to right, are driver front, passenger rear, passenger front. Unfortunately, nothing would be able to save him at that speed after he made that delayed decision to turn, especially with how impaired he would have been at a .196 BAC.
06-28-2011, 01:13 PM
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I wasn't suggesting that ABS would or could save him; just curious as to the attittude at which he skidded resulting in no apparent ABS operation... hence the solid skid lines.
06-28-2011, 07:13 PM
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Look at the width of the marks. I think it's safe to assume the car was rotating sideways at that point.....thus the solid marks.
Seems obvious he came flying up on that right side exit at a buck forty, said "oh sh*t that's our exit", lifted (and most likely braked), which completely unloaded the rear tires at speed, and gave it steering input.
Recipe for disaster in any car, not just a GT3.
Seems obvious he came flying up on that right side exit at a buck forty, said "oh sh*t that's our exit", lifted (and most likely braked), which completely unloaded the rear tires at speed, and gave it steering input.
Recipe for disaster in any car, not just a GT3.