deputydog95

Had the car at the dealer last week for some PM.

Decided to knock out the time serts on the calipers to be on the safe side.

Dealer charged 5 hours. I had heard that it should be a lot less than that.

Anyone have any experience installing these?

Izzone

Gavin.....much less

deputydog95

What should have been the service time for that?

I had a service credit from Porsche for the whole "coolant hose" debacle. It was one of those use it or lose it type deals.

savyboy

I remain of the opinion that if threads are carefully cleaned before reassembly (brake cleaner spray), no impact tools are used to remove/install, and bolts are torqued to spec upon installation that chances are you will not have a problem with the OE setup.

My 3RS has had calipers off/on perhaps 30 times? And no problem. I am religious to clean and torque.

FYI

YMMV

Izzone

An hour

tcsracing1

i had to finally change my callipers bolts to studs like that of the race cars. The original threads and aluminum can only take so much over time.

FTS

+1, and do not exceed 58 ft-lbs torque, even better to stay around 55-56 IMO.

But of course this does not answer the original question, which I have no idea

911rox

hey Savy,

I'm of the understanding that the bolts need to be replaced each time so they wouldn't need much of a clean. What do you use to get into the threads of the uprights to clean the brake cleaner and crap out with?

What is the correct torque spec on the caliper bolts for both front and rear?

Carrera GT

I agree with the clean and torque. Are you re-using the bolts?
I've had the rears off only 4 times, but each time, cleaned and new bolts, torqued to spec, not a penny more. Some say the stuff on the new bolts (looks just like loctite) also works to prevent binding/galling.
Sooner or later, I'll get some thread problem symptoms and I'll sink in the TIME SERTS and rest easy. I'll also eventually go to a caliper that allows quick pad swaps ... you know, like 911's back in the 90's ... : )

deputydog95

My thing is that I don't do my own service. Wish I could, but I lack the technical expertise and time. I'm sure I'm capable, and it's probably something I need to learn how to do one of these days.

However, for the time being I'm relying on shops to do the work for me. And with that, there are no guarantees as to how precise or gentle they'll be.

I know of at least 2 incidents personally where the caliper has come loose or come off altogether. The one that came off, aside from the danger aspect of not being able to stop properly, did thousands in damage when it went swinging.

So, for those that have done the time serts or paid to have it done, how long should it take?

deputydog95

I just saw this post. Either Gavin's guys are super fast or I got screwed

I suppose there were 2 of them working so that cuts the time in half.

Izzone

One guy did the whole thing while the other rotated the top hats

I sat in a chair and watched the whole process

You got screwed

Erik

I got charged 2 hours but that was because for the rears they had to make a special tool to get in there (fronts you can just turn the steering wheel, and there is plenty of room). After special tool is made, other rear and fronts take less then 10 minutes each

deputydog95

Apparently... That sucks. I just watched a video on the Time website.

http://www.timesert.com/html/install.html#A

It's not that hard and should have not taken 5 hours to install. Especially for an experience tech. 30 minutes a corner. Tops.

There's four bolts for each caliper, right?

Izzone

Two bolts per corner

I just had time certs put in the rear, so one hour for the rear