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Old 03-14-2011, 12:16 PM
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50 Hp more? yeah right!

It took Sharkwerks a custom and aggressive ECU tune, a track exhaust with low back pressure, an 8800 rpm redline and a 3.9 to put just 450 whp on 93 octane fuel. Porsche can't match that with a 4.0L, not with the necessary sound restrictions, different markets, 91 octane fuel and longevity required by a street car.

Carbon roof? not going to happen, it would need a new crash test.

Carbon fenders? yes, as a $$$ option. They will probably save less than 50 lbs over the 2011 RS, let's be realistic, they are not going to switch to an Aluminum or Carbon car for a short run, they need to make money.

My predictions:

- No more than 485Hp
- No PDK
- No more than 50 lbs lighter than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No a lot better downforce than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No plastic windows
- No one-piece bucket seats
- Rear tires from the GT2 RS (they have more grip than the 2011 GT3 RS rear tires).
Old 03-14-2011, 01:44 PM
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+ carbon trunk lid

...and don't forget red Alcantara trim bits.
Old 03-14-2011, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
50 Hp more? yeah right!

It took Sharkwerks a custom and aggressive ECU tune, a track exhaust with low back pressure, an 8800 rpm redline and a 3.9 to put just 450 whp on 93 octane fuel. Porsche can't match that with a 4.0L, not with the necessary sound restrictions, different markets, 91 octane fuel and longevity required by a street car.

Carbon roof? not going to happen, it would need a new crash test.

Carbon fenders? yes, as a $$$ option. They will probably save less than 50 lbs over the 2011 RS, let's be realistic, they are not going to switch to an Aluminum or Carbon car for a short run, they need to make money.

My predictions:

- No more than 485Hp
- No PDK
- No more than 50 lbs lighter than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No a lot better downforce than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No plastic windows
- No one-piece bucket seats
- Rear tires from the GT2 RS (they have more grip than the 2011 GT3 RS rear tires).
+1 ... think 3RS with 2RS CF bling and maybe some suspension components (rose joints etc) and perhaps an additional 0-15-20bhp squeezed from somewhere ... its more likely to be a parts bin special than an incremental development/refinement IMHO.

re: PDK, if it were possible/cost effective PAG would have mated the PDK to the GT-1 block for the 2010/11 GT3/RS, or even GT2RS production run they would not wait for the end of the production run and a limited edition car to recoup the R&D on that ...
Old 03-14-2011, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by daedton
I have a deposit. #1 at a top 3 volume dealer. Guaranteed in writing that it will be as MSRP. For me it mostly just depends on price. I know the spec and design will be amazing. But will it be worth paying $60k more than the 11 RS?

11 RS
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Champion, Beverly Hills and The Collection are top 3 in volume (with Park Place Tx and Hennessy Atlanta not far behind). I have deposit at one of the 5 dealers I've listed but no acknowledgement of said car........we'll see

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Old 03-14-2011, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
... more exaggerated decals...
Sorry, not possible
Old 03-14-2011, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
If the car has 50hp more, less weight and better aero (as the rumors suggest), then I expect that it will be significantly faster than a 3RS.
... and that's why they will sell out, but...

Originally Posted by NJ-GT
50 Hp more? yeah right!

It took Sharkwerks a custom and aggressive ECU tune, a track exhaust with low back pressure, an 8800 rpm redline and a 3.9 to put just 450 whp on 93 octane fuel. Porsche can't match that with a 4.0L, not with the necessary sound restrictions, different markets, 91 octane fuel and longevity required by a street car.

Carbon roof? not going to happen, it would need a new crash test.

Carbon fenders? yes, as a $$$ option. They will probably save less than 50 lbs over the 2011 RS, let's be realistic, they are not going to switch to an Aluminum or Carbon car for a short run, they need to make money.

My predictions:

- No more than 485Hp
- No PDK
- No more than 50 lbs lighter than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No a lot better downforce than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No plastic windows
- No one-piece bucket seats
- Rear tires from the GT2 RS (they have more grip than the 2011 GT3 RS rear tires).
Why do you have to be such a realist. Your comments make perfect sense and your logic is flawless, but man do I wish that you are wrong. I am in denial.
Old 03-14-2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
It will for the following customers:

1. Collectors who will preserve the car in perfect shape with minimal use (particularly not thrash it on the track).

2. Those who will thrash it on the track and will appreciate the added performance.

3. Those for whom the extra $60k is not a big issue and just want the coolest, best performing naturally aspirated factory 911 ever made that is street-legal.
That covers it nicely

So really, the only customers for whom this car is not are the ones who can't afford it... me.
Old 03-14-2011, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FFaust
That covers it nicely

So really, the only customers for whom this car is not are the ones who can't afford it... me.
and me too...
Old 03-14-2011, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
50 Hp more? yeah right!

It took Sharkwerks a custom and aggressive ECU tune, a track exhaust with low back pressure, an 8800 rpm redline and a 3.9 to put just 450 whp on 93 octane fuel. Porsche can't match that with a 4.0L, not with the necessary sound restrictions, different markets, 91 octane fuel and longevity required by a street car.

Carbon roof? not going to happen, it would need a new crash test.

Carbon fenders? yes, as a $$$ option. They will probably save less than 50 lbs over the 2011 RS, let's be realistic, they are not going to switch to an Aluminum or Carbon car for a short run, they need to make money.

My predictions:

- No more than 485Hp
- No PDK
- No more than 50 lbs lighter than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No a lot better downforce than the 2011 GT3 RS
- No plastic windows
- No one-piece bucket seats
- Rear tires from the GT2 RS (they have more grip than the 2011 GT3 RS rear tires).
aren't they the same as the 3RS, 12Jx19 325/30's??? different N-spec?
Old 03-14-2011, 08:04 PM
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^ yes Larry they are a different N-spec, the 2RS is N2 and the 3RS is N1 ...
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We can talk about it all day long..

The thing that separates the men from the boys is when you have to pay for it!

There are some GT2RS waiting for homes
Old 03-14-2011, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MJones
We can talk about it all day long..

The thing that separates the men from the boys is when you have to pay for it!

There are some GT2RS waiting for homes
mummy, please may I have a new GT2RS?
Old 03-14-2011, 09:20 PM
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LW what? Me want GT2RS.
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I'm betting the 3RS Limited will have the new Pilot Cup Super Sports for tires.
Old 03-14-2011, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BBTurbo
I'm betting the 3RS Limited will have the new Pilot Cup Super Sports for tires.
that would be great, more so for the GT3RS drivers so they can get the 325/30-19 fitment.

My personal guess is we wont see N-spec Super Sports for the 911 until the new 991 ships.


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