4.0 GT3RS - Details Emerge

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03-06-2011, 03:14 AM

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Allow me.

Let's see Porsche has done this before:

The original RS

Carrera 2.7 RS (1075 kg)
Carrera 2.7 RS Lightweight (975 kg)
Carrera 3.0 RS (900 kg)

There was also the 73 2.8 RSR in Touring (Street) and Racing trim (<900kg and >300hp)

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03-06-2011, 03:57 AM

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^Duly noted. And thanks for the knowledge.

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03-06-2011, 07:40 AM

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^ also, the 964 c4 lightweight. 20 built.
and the 964 30 jahre anniversary.

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03-06-2011, 10:06 AM

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I agree with Mooty. Porsche should basically make a road going version of the Cup R or RSR to put an exclamation point on the 997 line up that will become one of the future icons of the brand.

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03-06-2011, 11:23 AM

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^ also, the 964 c4 lightweight. 20 built.
and the 964 30 jahre anniversary.

Thanks!

This just proves my point. The Porsche brand is NOT diluted by having many variants of the 911. This has been part of Porsche's MO for quite some time now.

Cayenne, Cajun and Panamera...IMHO, that's a whole different story.

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03-06-2011, 06:11 PM

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i was at the dealership the other day, and a woman came in and asked:
"do you have any 7 seaters?"
says it all, really.

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03-06-2011, 07:42 PM

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The tiptronic first showed up on the 996 all wheel drive cars. The 993 or 964 all wheel drive cars didn't have the option of tip tranny.

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Originally Posted by MJSpeed

Allow me.

Let's see Porsche has done this before:

The original RS

Carrera 2.7 RS (1075 kg)
Carrera 2.7 RS Lightweight (975 kg)
Carrera 3.0 RS (900 kg)

The 964 models:

Carrera 2 + Tiptronic (First time in a Porsche)
Carrera 2 Cab + Tiptronic
Carrera 2 Targa + Tiptronic
Carrera 4 (first time in a Porsche) + Tiptronic
Carrera 4 Cab + Tiptronic
Carrera 4 Targa + Tiptronic
Speedster
Turbo (3.3)
Turbo S (3.3)
Turbo 3.6
Turbo S 3.6
Turbo S Flatnose
RS
RS Touring
RS 3.8
RS America
Carrera Cup USA Edition-street car

The 993 models:

Carrera + Tiptronic
Carrera 4 + Tiptronic
Carrera 2S + Tiptronic
Carrera 4S + Tiptronic
Carrera Cab + Tip
Carrera 4 Cab + Tip
Targa + Tip
Targa
RS
RS Clubsport
GT2
Turbo
Turbo Cab (14)
Turbo S
Speedster (2-Ferry Porsche and a silver one for Seinfeld)

The 996 variants are:

Carrera
Carrera Cab
Carrera 4
Carrera 4 Cab
Carrera S Cab
Carrera 4S Cab
Carrera 40 Jahre
Carrera Millenium Edition
Targa
Targa 4
Turbo
Turbo Cab
Turbo S
Turbo S Cab
MkI GT3
MkII GT3
GT3RS
GT2

Variants of the 911 do not dilute Porsche, IMHO, but the Cayenne, Cayenne S, Cayenne GTS, Cayenne Turbo and the Panamera and all it's variants do.

As for me, I hope Porsche looks at the 993 RS Clubsport as what to shoot for in this 4.0L RS.

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03-06-2011, 09:36 PM

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The tiptronic first showed up on the 996 all wheel drive cars. The 993 or 964 all wheel drive cars didn't have the option of tip tranny.

Thanks!

Copy+paste on an iPhone...

Doesn't change my point.

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03-06-2011, 10:18 PM

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Great post. I get your point that multiple variations of the 911 family has been Porsche's MO since at least the 930. But aren't we in uncharted territory with the busiest lineup of "specials", ever? Arguably the Speedsters, Sports Classics, GT2RS and GT3RSLE will (hopefully be) limited in production run, but these runs combined are still considerably bigger than the specials of yore.

There's much wisdom in your post MJones but I can only pray that the "special" cars that PAG are peddling today will retain their status over time and earn themselves the a spot in the league of the 930 slantnoses and 964 RS3.8. My layman commercial logic says it's a tall order...

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03-07-2011, 08:16 AM

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...There's much wisdom in your post MJones but I can only pray that the "special" cars that PAG are peddling today will retain their status over time and earn themselves the a spot in the league of the 930 slantnoses and 964 RS3.8. My layman commercial logic says it's a tall order...

You meant me (MJSpeed and not MJones), I presume.

Time will tell. There are "special" models from the past that demand premiums and some that don't.

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03-07-2011, 04:17 PM

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I agree. Why criticize Porsche for making 911 variants. The issue is with
the rest of the line.... SUV's and entry level SUV's are simply ridiculous.

At least Ferrari made a station wagon which makes more
"sense" at least from an engineering perspective. I could probably swallow the bitter pill of a Porsche Wagon.... but a bloated SUV is another story. How about a GTS SUV or the next RSR SUV. VW will make it happen

PS: MJS looks like a Colombia flag on you sig... I was in Cartagena and had a blast!

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03-09-2011, 07:11 PM

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Rumor has it, from another forum - that the Press Release from PAG will be forthcoming on April 7th!!!!! Fingers crossed!!!!

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03-09-2011, 08:17 PM

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As for me, I hope Porsche looks at the 993 RS Clubsport as what to shoot for in this 4.0L RS.

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they should really get ballsy
rivet on some FAT fenders like 993RS.
NO armrest on door.
No radio
No AC
real LSD
deeper seats
roll bar.
make it 2600 lbs.

The 993 Light weight range were as follows:

993 RS
993 RSCS (Clubsport)
993 RSR (Racing only Pic attached)
993 GT2
993 GT2 Evo

I am with you Mooty, the Gt3RS 4.0 should be like the 993 RSR

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